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Re: The "Slip-Sliding to Spain to Try Their Best" 2008 Davis Cup Thread!!

Great photosThanks smitty

here's Justin's article about DC(and Fed Cup)

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I realize that some people will immediately denounce this column as gender bashing, but they would be wrong. My analysis that Davis Cup in America is thriving and Fed Cup is dying is merely an objective look at the discrepancies and inequities of the two.

Case in point: earlier this month 10,000 people from all over the country dusted off their foghorns and 4th of July bests to root Team USA to an enthralling win over France in the quarterfinals of the Davis Cup in Winston-Salem, N.C. It was the second Davis Cup match in the venue in the past eight months and if you asked anyone in Winston-Salem, they'd tell you they'd want to have every home Davis Cup match there. I couldn't walk into a restaurant, coffee shop or through the hotel lobby without engaging in a conversation about the event.

It certainly helps that the American men are defending champions, have a star-studded team and their loyalty is so strong that they might as well bleed red, white and blue. Andy Roddick, James Blake, and the Bryan twins have played in Cup matches 10 straight times. This isn't a partnership of convenience. These guys play anywhere, anytime. They've played home, away, on clay, on grass, a week after Grand Slam successes and disappointments, and even six weeks after lifting the Championship Cup.

Their consistency is rewarded by a legion of fans, some of whom refer to themselves as NETHEADS, who travel to support the team no matter where and when they are playing. Easter Sunday? No problem. Friday afternoons? No sweat. Look up and there they are, dressed in red, white, and blue and screaming their heads off.

When Patrick McEnroe took over as captain in 2001, Team USA was struggling to get the consistent support of its top players. It showed in attendance: barely 4,000 to 5000 people in the seats.

Patrick and Arlen Kantarian, CEO of USTA Professional Tennis, decided to start from scratch and make a commitment to a new group of up and coming players. Their foresight has paid huge dividends. They are reaping the success on and off the courts, highlighting by the recent championship.

Up next, though, is a formidable challenge: playing Spain, in Spain, on slow red clay. But, yet again, you have to love the attitude of the American team. When asked after the win over France how he felt about the semifinal clash, Andy Roddick quipped, "the one thing you can count on with this team is we will be there and prepared to give our best efforts."

The Fed Cup, on the other hand, has always been a far cry from its counterpart, especially in the U.S. The Fed Cup has tried mightily to find a successful formula, and has changed its format repeatedly throughout the process. Fed Cup began as a weeklong event played at one venue, with matches decided by two singles and a deciding doubles. In 1995 it adopted a home/away best-of-five format in World Group play over three weekends and with eight competing teams. Recent versions have resulted in financial losses for the USTA.

Moreover, without the support of the top American women, Team USA has repeatedly been forced to resort to what often looks like a minor league team. Next week the USA will compete against Russia, in Russia, and the American team will not have a singles player in the top 100 in the world. Vania King, 112, Ahsha Rolle, 138, and Madison Brengle, 253, will join world No. 1 Liezel Huber, who just recently converted her citizenship from her native South Africa.

I appreciate and respect the efforts of these women and have no doubt they will compete admirably, but if this is the best the Fed Cup can produce, maybe it's time to re-evaluate the interest and solvency of Fed Cup in America and reallocate the USTA's funds.

Davis Cup is a very successful franchise that could still benefit from some tweaking, most notably a switch to an every-other-year format that mirrors the Ryder Cup. For the Fed Cup to be successful, it needs to find a formula that facilitates the best players playing consistently.

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TTC just showed the WHEATIES Box with the DC Team on it

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TTC just showed the WHEATIES Box with the DC Team on it
you what now?!

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Wheaties is a cereal in the US, been around forever, and they often put sports champions on it. It's not a big deal but it's nice to see the DC team get mainstream recognition

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They rarely put tennis players on the Wheaties box, took them FOREVER to put Pete on there and they only did it once.

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Wheaties is a cereal in the US, been around forever, and they often put sports champions on it. It's not a big deal but it's nice to see the DC team get mainstream recognition
yeah, I guessed that it is a cereal, I just didn't see why they'd be on the box. That's cool though, good for them!

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People in GM actually saying that PMac should replace Blake with Querrey for Davis Cup in September. Get off the bandwagon, folks.

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"What kind of shape am I in now? Well round is a shape." said Roddick with a laugh. "I had a very detailed retirement plan, and I feel like I've met every aspect of it: a lot of golf, a lot of carbs, a lot of fried food, and some booze, occasionally — I've been completely committed ... The results have shown."


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I know right?

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I don't know. Blake looked really awful in the Houston final.
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He did, but can you imagine putting Querrey in there against Nadal in a best of 5 match on clay in his first DC rubber?

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jcempire was saying that we're gonna lose anyway so why not play the younger guys to give them experience? I say that would be the equivalent of USA throwing in the towel, which would not go down well with Andy et al. It would also be an insult to our Spanish hosts who have every right to expect the defending DC champions to play their top players for the semis.

"What kind of shape am I in now? Well round is a shape." said Roddick with a laugh. "I had a very detailed retirement plan, and I feel like I've met every aspect of it: a lot of golf, a lot of carbs, a lot of fried food, and some booze, occasionally — I've been completely committed ... The results have shown."


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Exactly. And anyway, like I said in that thread, just b/c we all know the US is gonna lose, I sure as hell hope that's not the mindset of the team. Like you said, putting the youngsters out is just saying 'we know we'll lose so here you go' - it's not PMac's style and it's not Andy and James's style. It's unfortunate for the younger guys that having the Bryans on the team makes it such that they get no experience. Like if there had been a doubles specialist team consistently chosen for the team in 2001, Andy wouldn't have had his chances and who knows what would've happened to his DC career - it surely wouldn't have turned out this way. So it's a shame that the rules don't let Sam, Donald, etc. play the dead rubbers to get the experience, but I just don't see how putting them out there to get their asses kicked right back home would be good for anyone.

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I agree, that's one rule I'd like to see changed in DC where the captain can play the younger players in dead rubbers to give them some DC experience. The US team is set in stone for a while so I don't see how Donald, Sam, John, etc. can enjoy sitting on the sidelines being nothing but cheerleaders during this time when they could be out playing.

We had a very respectable showing in Spain 2004 with a final score of 2-3 with some hard-fought matches (Andy took a set from Rafa! ), so I will expect more of the same this year.

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"What kind of shape am I in now? Well round is a shape." said Roddick with a laugh. "I had a very detailed retirement plan, and I feel like I've met every aspect of it: a lot of golf, a lot of carbs, a lot of fried food, and some booze, occasionally — I've been completely committed ... The results have shown."


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Yep. you can tell when pmac talks about it, he gets heated. I'm sure he wants to give these guys a chance and also he knows at the back of his mind that at some point the current guys won't be playing anymore or won't be in their prime and he'll have to put one of them in a big live rubber without any experience. Some traditional and archaic rules are nice and worth keeping - this is one that certainly is not.

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I agree, dead rubbers should be 'anyone on the bench' as long as the bench players are officially named on Thursday night. That crowd in Portland would have been THRILLED to see Donald Young and John Isner play on Sunday instead of Mike and Bob (absolutely no offense to the twins).

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