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View Poll Results: TT season 2007:WC's: Yes or no?
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what's the point of SE? it's not like the player needs to travel or smth
Well win 1 tournament or the final of another, and have to play qualies in the next.

It's not like everyone can be Oliver Marach play and win the Rome challenger and then go to Foro Italico.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Wow I can't believe so many "no"s. It seems like a no-brainer to me - I can't think of any negatives (if it is implemented like I mentioned in the rules and changes thread). May I enquire as to the reasoning behind the "no"s? Sorry Adam!
It's not so simple, there are many reasons for not to have the WC's. First of all, the new entry system must be tested in long term to see if there's really a significant need for the WC's at this point (TT is not that big yet). Secondly, we want to get rid of the first-in based commitment, WC's would complicate things more. Also we don't want to encourage the possible cheaters who play TT with multiple accounts by giving them an easy way into the game.

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Well win 1 tournament or the final of another, and have to play qualies in the next.

It's not like everyone can be Oliver Marach play and win the Rome challenger and then go to Foro Italico.
I'm pretty sure I can do both tournaments (final and qualies) sitting in front of my PC

of course, I get your point, that is to favour players that are doing well in a previous tournament but I dont see it vital

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Well win 1 tournament or the final of another, and have to play qualies in the next.

It's not like everyone can be Oliver Marach play and win the Rome challenger and then go to Foro Italico.
And why are you not be able to play a final in a tournament and the qualies in another the same day ?

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1st: We cant know if all the people who votes in this type of poll are TT Players....

It is easy for us (high ranked) to commit into a tournament, buy maybe there are few guys more "TT talented" than us and they dont have ranking.. The only difference is they started to play little time ago or they arent playing now... And we started in the TT beginnings...

We should give opportunities to new players; it is hard to win points in challengers and the matches are harder to predict too...
And TT is more realistic with Wildcards and SE.

Another Idea to make Tennis Tipping more competitive is to duplicate the challenger points. Per Ex. if a Challenger Winner gets 50 points, he should get 100 points...

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With the Entry List System. we will be always the same players playing the same tournaments.... Sounds boring...

Perfect idea!! For Challenger points!!
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I'm pretty sure I can do both tournaments (final and qualies) sitting in front of my PC

of course, I get your point, that is to favour players that are doing well in a previous tournament but I dont see it vital
You sure you can do it.

Seriously, it wouldn't bother me too much, as long as that particular player is allowed to play in those events and not get penalised cause of a low ranking at the time.

Normally playing 2 events at the same time isn't allowed obviously, but this would only be used rarely.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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It's not so simple, there are many reasons for the not to have the WC's. First of all, the new entry system must be tested in long term to see if there's really a significant need for the WC's at this point (TT is not that big yet). Secondly, we want to get rid of the first-in based commitment, WC's would complicate things more. Also we don't want to encourage the possible cheaters who play TT with multiple accounts by giving them an easy way into the game.
Yeah,and you forgot to write you don't give a shit!
high ranked players should not vote!
Are you stupid or something?
How the hell would WC's "complicate things more"?
And what about doubling points for Challengers?
You want to be just like ATP,so you won't exept that...
But,as far as I know,ATP has WC's,or you forgot that?
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if something doesn't change many players will never get to the atp level and wont use their potential...That includes me.As GustavoM_Fan said,challenger matches are harder to predict
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dude, if you look at the ranking there are many players positioned from 70 to 150 that play very rarely or dont play at all; with 3-4 good challenger results you can go easily near the top 100

and then there Aus Open where if you qualify you can get a load of points

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That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
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Yeah,and you forgot to write you don't give a shit!
high ranked players should not vote!
Are you stupid or something?
How the hell would WC's "complicate things more"?
And what about doubling points for Challengers?
You want to be just like ATP,so you won't exept that...
But,as far as I know,ATP has WC's,or you forgot that?
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lol, this guy is too good
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dude, if you look at the ranking there are many players positioned from 70 to 150 that play very rarely or dont play at all; with 3-4 good challenger results you can go easily near the top 100

and then there Aus Open where if you qualify you can get a load of points
I can bet I wont even enter in top 100 in 2007.
Even if i play every single week.
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well, that's a very pessimistic statement

just try to play qualies of ATP events and I'm sure by april you'll be top 100

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well, that's a very pessimistic statement

just try to play qualies of ATP events and I'm sure by april you'll be top 100
I won't get in qualies.I can play dumb challengers or be an "qualies alternate"
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I won't get in qualies.I can play dumb challengers or be an "qualies alternate"
there are sometimes 3 ATP tournaments in a week, with at least 44 players (MD+Q) each, that makes it 132 playes in a week. despite the number in the ranking that is more than 200, be sure that there are not more than 120 regular players, especially during winter season when all are busy with school and exams

it wil be then your choice to try luck in ATP qualies or to play CH MD

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That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
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Well,we'll see..
Hope that's true.
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