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View Poll Results: Which TB method do you prefer in TT?
Predict-the-Score system (the current system here) 31 46.27%
Set Ratio system (the current system in WTA TT) 36 53.73%
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I guess so oh wait, I see we agree on the doubles poll
Twice in one day? Oh gosh, we better not get used to this.

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Yeah I kind of changed set ratios a bit... to make it a TB method because I didn't think there was any way to sell it to this crowd as just part of the game to get rid of the importance of the points. You guys never have 5 tbs in a round that I've seen though either. .
Yeah, your idea is good.

And no, 2 was the most we had.
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Yeah, your idea is good.

And no, 2 was the most we had.
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

set ratios of course

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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

I like Jess's idea of modifying the tb scoring system - that would have been my solution too but I thought it would be too complicated to come up with a fair system which people would agree on but it probably just needs a couple of tweaks
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I think just giving more points to correct order/number of sets should be enough
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

I think set ratios is still winning the poll however. So maybe a more substantial compromise of sorts should be considered.

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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

I think this is going to be the hardest decision to make for next year.
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

I think some of the managers underestimated the thirst for change here.

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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

The poll is still nearly fifty-fifty, a compromise solution might be the best thing to keep everybody satisfied. Also 3 of the 4 board members support somekind of compromise.
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Set ratios first and PTS as a second TB, or modifying PTS points...
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

Here's one compromise suggestion

If the match goes to a TB, then the order of deciding the tie would be:

1. correct winner in TB match
2. correct set ratio in TB match
3. PTS with changes to the scoring system


Correct order of sets for:
1 set – 1 point
2 sets – 3 points -> 4 points
3 sets – 5 points -> 7 points
4 sets – 7 points -> 10 points
5 sets – 10 points -> 13 points

Correct scoreline for:
1 set – 4 points -> 3 points
2 sets – 8 points -> 6 points
3 sets – 12 points -> 9 points
4 sets – 16 points -> 12 points
5 sets – 20 points -> 15 points
*2 additional points per set if the scoreline is in the correct set (this would be removed)

This would take down the luck factor significantly and the dreaded 'bad beats' wouldn't be possible. Also we wouldn't have to bring a totally new system and we wouldn't have to send those set ratios for all the matches (less work for the managers). This would also reward the tipping more as there would be more CB's. Let me know what you think
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

I think this is a good suggestion.
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

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Here's one compromise suggestion

If the match goes to a TB, then the order of deciding the tie would be:

1. correct winner in TB match
2. correct set ratio in TB match
3. PTS with changes to the scoring system


Correct order of sets for:
1 set – 1 point
2 sets – 3 points -> 4 points
3 sets – 5 points -> 7 points
4 sets – 7 points -> 10 points
5 sets – 10 points -> 13 points

Correct scoreline for:
1 set – 4 points -> 3 points
2 sets – 8 points -> 6 points
3 sets – 12 points -> 9 points
4 sets – 16 points -> 12 points
5 sets – 20 points -> 15 points
*2 additional points per set if the scoreline is in the correct set (this would be removed)

This would take down the luck factor significantly and the dreaded 'bad beats' wouldn't be possible. Also we wouldn't have to bring a totally new system and we wouldn't have to send those set ratios for all the matches (less work for the managers). This would also reward the tipping more as there would be more CB's. Let me know what you think
Thats fair , I also didnt like the 2 points if the scoreline is in the correct set
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

Meh. Hold on I need to think of something because right now that compromise looks like making set ratio people compromise a lot more than the PTS people are. They basically get to keep everything done their way except with a new scoring system? I just woke up... I'll respond shortly.

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