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View Poll Results: Which TB method do you prefer in TT?
Predict-the-Score system (the current system here) 31 46.27%
Set Ratio system (the current system in WTA TT) 36 53.73%
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When we send in the TB score do we just put for example, 6:4, 6:3 and or do we actually have to say SR:2-0?
I think if a manager can't work out the SR from the score then we're in big trouble
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Re: PTS or Set Ratios as TB method?

so this method is only used for the first round? because i like the idea of putting CB's before TB's for further rounds. will there be an extra poll for this?


i like every solution as long as ranking doesn't decide any matches again

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And there are 5 TB's? (just a little confused here)
That's what the PTS people wanted They wanted 5 TBs in the first round, that part is to avoid winning on ranking except for a complete fluke happening where all 5 TBs are tied.

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so this method is only used for the first round? because i like the idea of putting CB's before TB's for further rounds. will there be an extra poll for this?


i like every solution as long as ranking doesn't decide any matches again

I believe so. Now that we seem to have this pretty much sorted, I feel there should probably be another poll. You and I will be on the same side in that one

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I disagree. I think it does still need to be upped. What about TB2, TB3, TB4? Correct set ratio should still be rewarded in those scores. I think it does need to remain part of the scoring system. You still need to have points for having the right winner and sets in the TB match so that those are still included in the points for tbs in the first round.
If the set ratios are the same, it doesn't matter anymore. We always check the set ratios first in PTS (for example, if the match would go to TB2, again we would check if the set ratio will decide the match and only after that we'll count the points).
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I believe so. Now that we seem to have this pretty much sorted, I feel there should probably be another poll. You and I will be on the same side in that one
I'm not sure it's sorted just yet I'm sure there's a lot more opinions from other players to come.
I'm happy to go along with this but it does seem a little overcomplicated
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Yes, 5 TB's in the first round to avoid the winning on ranking situation.

And the new poll about CB vs TB might start sometime soon, if we can agree on this compromise solution for TB's.
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If the set ratios are the same, it doesn't matter anymore. We always check the set ratios first in PTS (for example, if the match would go to TB2, again we would check if the set ratio will decide the match and only after that we'll count the points).
The set ratios may be the same if they are both 4/5 and have a different match wrong. If you are going to check winner AND set ratio before doing the scoring for each TB, then you are right and it wouldn't need to be included.

I think we've sorted this

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Well, well, I don't agree with any idea put forward by either the PTS camp or the Set Ratio camp

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Lets all take a deep breath.

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I'm not sure it's sorted just yet I'm sure there's a lot more opinions from other players to come.
I'm happy to go along with this but it does seem a little overcomplicated
I think it's less complicated in practice than it is trying to describe it in writing

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Well, well, I don't agree with any idea put forward by either the PTS camp or the Set Ratio camp

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The set ratios may be the same if they are both 4/5 and have a different match wrong. If you are going to check winner AND set ratio before doing the scoring for each TB, then you are right and it wouldn't need to be included.

I think we've sorted this

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Yes, that's what I meant.

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Well, well, I don't agree with any idea put forward by either the PTS camp or the Set Ratio camp

Let's see what I can throw into the ring
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