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post #16 of 57 (permalink) Old 11-23-2012, 12:04 AM
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Yes. My partner Acionescu is ranked 92th and I must wait until the last time to sign her up to the tournaments entrylists because she cant be online on sunday. Also this way I can decide our calendar better. So please dont screw this up,

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Yes. Because sometimes, as I'm not that high ranked, the partner is much more available than me at the deadline. I cannot commit in advance as I have to wait to see where i have the best chance to enter MD
This is the exact reason the rule is the way it is currently I hope it stays this way.

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Seriously, this is a game and we are playing for fun.

I can't be all Sundays ing to be in front of the computer at deadline not to miss the commiting

And I dont have iphone, ipod, blackberry and all other gadgets that keep people conected to internet 24/7. And I'm sure it's not only my case.

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This is the exact reason the rule is the way it is currently I hope it stays this way.
And that commit can take someone place, is it fair to this who lost place in MD


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Sorry, what? The person that either commits himself or is commited by other person would have taken that place anyway, no?

I repeat, it's a game, let it loose a little...

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No no and no..
You have 2 weeks to commit! It is long enough to find the time to commit without asking your partner. So definitively no.
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it's not about not being able to do so in the 10 day window but often people want/need to wait until the 1st deadline aproaches to see which event to pick as they might get in 1 event, and not get into another. This is no good if a poster can't get here then. Hence his partner should be able to commit for him close to the deadline.

Partner sending picks is totally different, he's effetively playing the game for you which is dumb. But commiting someone to an event is in no way playing the game for you, especially if you intend on confirming the commitment at a later date.
Not all of us have regular doubles partners. Take me for example, I often find a partner for a particular tournament after the 1st deadline.
I also have to make a choice sometimes before Sunday, which means I might lose my eventual spot in the MD, but that's life.


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And that commit can take someone place, is it fair to this who lost place in MD
Is it fair that is someone is away on a vacation and cannot commit that week that then they lose a week of TT that they are home for just because they don't have access to commit?

Is it fair that regular doubles partners will have to split up just because they don't have similar enough singles rankings? Especially with another poll going on pushing for a team race instead of doubles individual race? It's like one of these polls is saying "PLAY WITH A PERMANENT PARTER" and this one is saying "SUCKS TO BE YOU IF YOU HAVE A PARTNER"

In the past I've had to try to guess which tournament to commit in watching entry lists, and it's hard. Managers sometimes don't update the entry lists at all, and it comes down to the wire with whether you are in or not sometimes you as a team are on your own trying to figure out where you can or can't play and this game is making it harder, not easier on these teams.

If there's a confirmation I don't see the problem. If the person does not confirm in the second week and does not notify people ahead of time that confirmation will not be possible, then sure, lose the spot and move up someone who "deserves it" more.

And to the person that says you have two weeks to commit, that's incorrect. You have one week to commit without automatically being pushed to be an alternate because ATP events are always full on time.


*edit* I keep editing this because I had to be up for work at 3:30 am today and I'm not sure I'm saying things how I want to say them I don't want to offend anyone, and I don't think I'm being clear Maybe I should leave my thoughts for a day I can think more clearly I just remember the case being made for this so strongly back when I was on the TT Board I don't really remember there being opposition against it like this. But then again I always think TT is mostly good and I'm always surprised at how much people think needs to be changed from year to year.

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Not all of us have regular doubles partners. Take me for example, I often find a partner for a particular tournament after the 1st deadline.
I also have to make a choice sometimes before Sunday, which means I might lose my eventual spot in the MD, but that's life.

that's exactly my point, this is not life, this is a f*cking game, dude!

This rule allowed me this year to be able to plan my schedule better( having a TT savvy permanent partner also helped ) and being able to get Top.100 in both singles and doubles. It's a pity if we drop it

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Is it fair that is someone is away on a vacation and cannot commit that week that then they lose a week of TT that they are home for just because they don't have access to commit?

Is it fair that regular doubles partners will have to split up just because they don't have similar enough singles rankings? Especially with another poll going on pushing for a team race instead of doubles individual race? It's like one of these polls is saying "PLAY WITH A PERMANENT PARTER" and this one is saying "SUCKS TO BE YOU IF YOU HAVE A PARTNER"

In the past I've had to try to guess which tournament to commit in watching entry lists, and it's hard. Managers sometimes don't update the entry lists at all, and it comes down to the wire with whether you are in or not sometimes you as a team are on your own trying to figure out where you can or can't play and this game is making it harder, not easier on these teams.

If there's a confirmation I don't see the problem. If the person does not confirm in the second week and does not notify people ahead of time that confirmation will not be possible, then sure, lose the spot and move up someone who "deserves it" more.

And to the person that says you have two weeks to commit, that's incorrect. You have one week to commit without automatically being pushed to be an alternate because ATP events are always full on time.


*edit* I keep editing this because I had to be up for work at 3:30 am today and I'm not sure I'm saying things how I want to say them I don't want to offend anyone, and I don't think I'm being clear Maybe I should leave my thoughts for a day I can think more clearly I just remember the case being made for this so strongly back when I was on the TT Board I don't really remember there being opposition against it like this. But then again I always think TT is mostly good and I'm always surprised at how much people think needs to be changed from year to year.
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You have to be very stupid to change a rule that benefits tt players, unless some idiots want to have some advantage by putting even more strict rules to the commitment.
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Suggestion: 2 commitments from another person for the whole year.

That I wouldn't mind. What I do mind is people committing others for teh lols and for no real reason.

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I agree with the idea of the player having to confirm his commitment later.
Another idea (which I like less) - only the doubles partner can commit you.

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If a player has a regular doubles partner, he should be able to commit his partner.
But anyone else should not be able to commit another player.

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Suggestion: 2 commitments from another person for the whole year.

That I wouldn't mind. What I do mind is people committing others for teh lols and for no real reason.
But is this actually happening? or are people up in arms over something that is not actually a problem

I've never seen someone commit someone for no reason before If this is happening, then I can understand the problem, but I've never seen that before.

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