Just to let you know this thread isn't being ignored - I have read all the contributions and they will be discussed with the other mods. One of us will come back to you in due course with an update.
Scoobs, sorry for the delay in responding. I was out most of the day. Thanks for taking the time to consider this issue. In my mind this issue is not only about Clay Death. His issue just happened to be the catalyst for me.
I've continued thinking about this and I have a proposal for a change in the rules that I believe would make things a bit more fair for all.
Currently from your Site-Wide Rules and Guide to Rule-Breaking Consequences thread, penalties for infractions appear to work like this (please correct me if I'm wrong).:
Offense Expires Maximum
Discriminatory remarks Never 3
Wishing injury Never 3
Wishing death Never 2
Uttering threats Never 2
Multiple accounts Never 2
Harassment Never 3
Violation of privacy Never 3
Bashing Moderators 1 Year 7
Spam (advertising) - -
Porn/Inappropriate images 1 year 5
Signature rule violation 1 year 7
Editing a mod's changes 1 year 5
Posting for banned member 1 year 5
Personal attack 1 year 10
Inappropriate language 1 year 10
Forum disruptions 1 year 10
Baiting 1 year 10
Trolling 1 year 10
Doping Allegations 1 year 10
Match Fixing Allegations 1 year 10
Offense 1st red 2nd red
Discriminatory remarks 1 month 2 months
Wishing injury 1 month 2 months
Wishing death 3 months 4 months
Uttering threats 1 month 2 months
Multiple accounts 3 months 4 months
Harassment 3 weeks 1 month
Violation of privacy 1 month 2 months
Moderator bashing 10 days 2 weeks
Spam Permanent -
Porn/Inappropriate images 10 days 2 weeks
Signature rule violation 4 days 5 days
Editing a mod's changes 1 week 2 weeks
Posting for banned member 1 week 2 weeks
Personal attack - 5 days
Inappropriate language - 5 days
Forum disruptions - 1 day
Baiting - 1 day
Trolling - 1 day
Doping Allegetions - 1 day
Match Fixing Allegations - 1 day
As one can see each infraction appears to have a maximum limit of occurrences
before one will be presumably eligible to be permanently banned for the infraction. Also there is this statement that appears in addition to the list:
Note that anyone with 15 or more infractions, or anyone who has been banned for more than 1 year (combined) for previous infractions, is automatically a candidate for a permanent ban upon their next infraction
This statement is a bit unclear to me. If infractions have "expired" over time, are they still counted for this purpose, or does this mean 15 or years worth of "current" infractions? I would hope expired are not
being counted for this purpose. If not, then I don't see much benefit in expiration. In any event, I don't think this rule is necessary with my proposal below.
Ok, so here is what I suggest as you might have guessed from my previous posts:
I think every offense should have a warning given for a first time violation. One can't expect every user to have read and/or understood the rules in total, or after a time, some may forget. I would tend to be lenient with a first time offender. Give a warning and and an opportunity to discuss if the violation is not clear to the user.
After a warning, a person should receive an infraction if committing the same offense. The infraction should come with a penalty appropriate to the infraction. It seems pretty clear to me which offenses are considered more serious already.
The main change I propose is instead of keeping a pure continuing count of infractions, to state a graduated penalty scale based on the number of infractions to a maximum penalty time. To keep things simple every offense gets x (eg. 5) slots in the scale + more. The time given for each successive incident depends on the severity of the offense. This could be programmed easily by giving a severity factor in time to each offense. Then if it is later decided that the offense should be more severe, then one could just change the severity factor and the penalty times would automatically be recalculated. The time could double for each graduation until the 5th slot is reached. Thereafter the same time penalty is used. The numbers used below are only an example.
Offense Severity Expires 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th more
Wishing death 6m Never 6m 1y 2y 4y 8y (8y or P)
Uttering threats 6m Never 6m 1y 2y 4y 8y (8y or P)
Multiple accounts 6m Never 3m 6m 1y 2y 4y (4y or P)
Wishing injury 3m Never 3m 6m 1y 2y 4y (4y or P)
Discriminatory remarks 6w Never 6w 3m 6m 1y 2y (2y or P)
Harassment 6w Never 6w 3m 6m 1y 2y (2y or P)
Violation of privacy 6w Never 6w 3m 6m 1y 2y (2y or P)
Bashing Moderators 1w 1 Year 1w 2w 1m 2m 4m 4m
Porn/Inappropriate images 1w 1 year 1w 2w 1m 2m 4m 4m
Editing a mod's changes 1w 1 year 1w 2w 1m 2m 4m 4m
Posting for banned member 1w 1 year 1w 2w 1m 2m 4m 4m
Signature rule violation 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Personal attack 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Inappropriate language 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Forum disruptions 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Baiting 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Trolling 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Doping Allegations 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Match Fixing Allegations 3.5d 1 year 3.5d 1w 2w 1m 2m 2m
Spam (advertising) - - -
For the more
column, for the more severe infractions notice I put the max time OR P(ermanent).
Personally, I don't know if permanent is really needed. as the time factor would be pretty long.
Another note is regarding the expiration. I would want to reward good behavior better somehow.
Maybe we could make the expiration factor of 2 on the penalty time, so if one received a 1st time 3 month ban for a specific offense, and then came back and did not commit the same offense for 6 months in this case, then I think the 3 months should be erased and one starts at 0. If your ban was 1 year, you have to be "clean" for 2 years before you go back to 0.
Finally, I think there should be more of a reward system for being a good poster in addition to the punishment system for being a "bad" apple. Rewards appear to work better than punishment in maintaining good behavior. Maybe reward someone with 10,000 vcash credits each month they've been clear of violations? I don't know, maybe others have other suggestions on rewards...
Thanks again for taking the time to review this.