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It's Really Federer Vs Sampras

ESPN.com: Tennis

Tuesday, November 7, 2006
Updated: November 9, 12:00 PM ET
It's really Federer vs. Sampras

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You know you've had an amazing season when your biggest stumbling block was a bed. We speak of The King -- Roger Federer. Blogging from Tokyo in October, Rog wrote about how he woke up in the middle of the night "screaming in a state of shock" and proceeded to bang his leg on the sharp wood frame. That didn't stop him from winning the tournament, of course. Or the one after that, in Madrid. Or the one after that, in Basel.


The guy is devouring tournaments like Pac Man with a serious case of the munchies.


As Federer heads into the season-ending Masters Cup next week, which pits the top eight players in round-robin competition, he won't be playing for the No. 1 ranking -- he locked that up months ago. And though Rafa and Roddick will be gunning for him, Federer's stiffest competition is against the player he's most compared to, one of his childhood heroes, Pete Sampras.


Forget Federer and Nadal. The most important rivalry in tennis is between Federer and Sampras. There certainly isn't another topic that stirs the hearts and minds of fans more than the question, Who's better?


The head-to-head record provides virtually no insight. The two played once, in the quarterfinals of Wimbledon in 2001, which Federer won. And you can break down all of their strokes, one by one, but that's subjective (other than the fact, which has nothing to do with their greatness, that Federer is exciting to watch, while Pete induced yawns big enough to be named hurricanes).


Then there are the individual accomplishments. Although Sampras leads in virtually all departments, Federer is quickly closing in. At 25 years old, he already has 44 singles titles to Sampras' 64, and Fed cares more about proving himself week in, week out, than Sampras ever did. In other words: Kiss that record goodbye.


In 2006, Federer put together a masterpiece of a season that overshadows anything Sampras did in a calendar year. He became the first male player since Rod Laver in 1961-62 to reach six consecutive major finals and the first player ever to win both Wimbledon and the U.S. Open three straight times. Most impressively, Federer came up one match short of the game's most celebrated accomplishment, the Grand Slam, which hasn't been done since Laver in 1969.


But you can throw all of that out. It doesn't matter. There's just one stat that counts when you're talking about Roger and Pete: Who'll end up with the most Grand Slam titles. Sampras has the all-time record with 14; Federer has 9. But short of the Swiss star having another mishap with a bed, that record will fall. The debate will be over.


And Pete knows it.


After Federer won this year's U.S. Open, he received a text message, out of the blue. Sampras wrote to congratulate him. He called Federer three days later to see if he got the text. (Apparently, the world's No. 1 is quick to return tennis balls, not messages.) "Pete said that I dominate the sport more than he used to," Federer told TENNIS Magazine. "It showed me that Sampras is pretty relaxed now. Records are there to be broken."


Perhaps Pete is chill. Or perhaps he's trying to get into Federer's headspace. You know how it goes: If someone is schooling you on a tennis court, one well-known tactic is to gush praise over them in the hopes that he'll relax, lose focus, and ultimately lose the match. It might be reading too much into a man who spends most of his time playing golf and poker. But it's fun to think Sampras is trying to mess with The King to protect his record.


One thing is certain: Federer will continue his march to becoming the best player of all time, and his hero will be watching.
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angiel, i think you should post this article in "general message" so that some of the nasty roger fans will finally realise that pete is only full of praise for roger and not bitterly against him

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angiel, i think you should post this article in "general message" so that some of the nasty roger fans will finally realise that pete is only full of praise for roger and not bitterly against him
I did post it there my dear.
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USTA will bolster American TV with TTC deal
Stop whining: Wade deserved the SI award as much as Federer



By Matthew Cronin, TennisReporters.net




USTA INVESTS IN THE TENNIS CHANNEL: America's governing body puts less than $6 million into TTC, essentially to help the still-struggling channel move forward. Now, TTC chief Ken Solomon can go to the big cable companies and satellite providers and say it has the backing of the mighty owner of the US Open. That should mean a great deal.
However, do not expect TTC to buy the major cable rights to the US Open any time soon; they don't have enough money to compete with USA or ESPN on that front. However, do expect them to make push for more early rounds of US tournaments, especially those that the USTA owns part of like Houston, Carson and Indian Wells.

What TTC needs now is far better cable distribution. It just debuted in on Comcast Northern California last week (arguably the wealthiest tennis-playing region in the nation) and is stuck on a paid sports tier.

SANIA BESTS LI NA: In one of the biggest victories of her career, Sania Mirza crushed China's top player, Li Na, 6-2, 6-2 to reach the Asian Games final. If Mirza beats Zheng Jie in the final, Mumbai will declare a national holiday.

HAARHUIS WINS BLACKROCK MASTERS: All credit to Dutchman Paul Haarhuis for playing superior tennis, but what men's senior tennis does not need is a once mediocre foil to Jimmy Connors winning its yearend event. Haarhuis won his second consecutive Blackrock Masters with a 7-6(4), 4-6, 10-7 win over Goran Ivanisevic.

TAYLOR DENT, JENNY HOPKINS GET MARRIED: Here's to a good-natured tennis couple and hoping that they last longer than Harkleroad-Bogomolov.

D-WADE DISSED: Has any tennis writer who wrote that Roger Federer deserved the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year Awards over winner Dwayne Wade actually sat down and watched the Miami Heat superstar play at great length? Does anyone realize that a brilliant writer who covers a fair amount of tennis, Scott Price, penned the article? Does anyone realize that there are at least five SI staffers who love tennis? Is anyone concerned that when easily dismissing a player from another sport, that tennis looks more parochial that it already is?

First off, SI doesn't give the award to foreign athletes. Secondly, it doesn't give the award to tennis players anymore. Third, even though I would give a slight edge to Federer, too, Wade is a true superstar who played a super-human level to lead the Heat the NBA Championships level last year. He carried his team past three excellent teams with legitimate superstars: the New Jersey Nets (Jason Kid and Vince Carter); the Detroit Pistons (Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton); and the Dallas Mavericks (Dirk Nowitski and Jason Terry). Forget Shaq, the Heat was Wade's team through and through. They were awful before Pat Riley came in to coach again at mid-season and, at that point, no serious analyst imagined that they could win the title. But they did due to Wade's remarkable ability to come through in the clutch. Wade's run through those three teams is very similar to Federer's taking three '06 Slam crowns. He was that dominant.

Truthfully, you can't compare individual and team sports anyway, Next year, maybe SI should split the award and give out a separate award for individual sports. For goodness sakes, for all the complaining that Federer didn't get the award, Americans Pete Sampras and Serena "Serena Slam" Williams never won, either.

MARIA SHARAPOVA TO APPEAR IN VOGUE (ANGELINA JOLIE VERSION): The Russia starlet will appear in the January issue of Vogue, but won't get the cover. That's reserved for the world's most looked-at woman: Angelina Jolie (Brad Pitt's friend). If Sharapova wants the cover, she may have to start a relationship with another A-plus list celebrity … Rudy Youngblood from the brilliant Apocalypto.

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Roger is history already
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January 20, 2007


FORGET Roger Federer creating history in five years - we are seeing it now according to Andre Agassi.

The American great said the points gap created by Federer over the rest of his rivals was unprecedented and may never be matched.

"His place in the game will be determined by him, and him alone," Agassi told ESPN.

"At a time where the No.2 player (Rafael Nadal) has probably earned double the points of the No.3 (Nikolay Davydenko), Federer has earned double the points of the No.2.

"I mean, we are seeing history. There is no question about it."

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DESPITE Agassi's view, the man whose grand slam record Federer is chasing, Pete Sampras, has no doubt who would win if they clashed - at their best.

Sampras said if he was in his form of 1999, when he won Wimbledon and the season-ending championship, he would have been able to handle every trick the Swiss star has, and then some.

The American great, who was inducted into the Hall Of Fame, said he felt unbeatable every time he stepped on to the court during that golden patch.

* * *

FEDERER, meanwhile, may have differing thoughts about Hawk-Eye and the challenge system after his match against Mikhail Youzhny yesterday. The world No.1 attacked the system on Wednesday, saying it embarrassed the players and made the umpires lazy.

But yesterday he used it to successfully challenge a fault after serving what he believed was a set-winning ace. Given the Russian was pressing to break back at 5-3, it was handy timing.

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Laver backs Federer to become the best ever
January 25, 2007

Rod Laver says nine-times grand slam champion Roger Federer is a tennis artist and well on his way to becoming the greatest player to have ever picked up a racquet.

Laver, himself considered by many as the best player ever, returned to Melbourne Park today to watch Federer's Australian Open semi-final against Andy Roddick in the arena named in his honour.

Asked if Federer could surpass Pete Sampras's benchmark 14 majors, Laver said: "boy, it certainly looks like he could".

"He's a great champion and has proved it all along that he plays his best tennis in finals. I think he's certainly on his way.

"When I look at Pete Sampras, we all thought, 'could you get any better than Pete Sampras and his mark as being a great, great champion?'

"I think Roger is really in the middle of his career ... wait and see on Roger. He's a great player and has won a lot of grand slams and the way he's compiling the grand slam titles, I think he's got a great chance of being the best ever."

Asked directly if the Swiss ace was the greatest player ever, Laver said: "I have to believe it because he's got every shot in the book".

"And his experience of late seems to be (that) he's stepping it up even further," said the California-based Queenslander.

"Just the shots that he uses in a match is quite incredible. He knows the safe zone and he knows when to hit out and go for winners.

"You don't see him being passed very often when he comes to the net and that's because he comes in at the right time. Sometimes (there is) the surprise attack and other times it's just (after) dipping the ball at a person's foot.

"I think the art of Roger is probably the best player I've ever seen."

Laver, 68, said Federer was in a league of his own right now.

"Roger's got too many shots, too much talent in one body," he said.

"It's hardly fair that one person can do all this - his backhands, his forehands, volleys, serving, his court position ... the way he moves around the court, you feel like he's barely touching the ground, and that's the sign of a great champion.

"And his anticipation I guess is the one thing that we all admire."

During an unparalleled career, Laver won 11 majors and remains the only man to have completed a calendar-year grand slam twice, having achieved the rare feat in 1962 and again in 1969.

He said he would love to see Federer pull it off.

"It's something he's very, very capable of winning and doing it but he's got to keep himself fit (with) injuries and that's something that's hard to do," Laver said.

"But if he could make it, that'd be just great because he's a great asset to the sport. He's a very modest champion."

Laver said it was impossible to say whether he was better than Federer.

"I guess I'm proud of his career as well as my own, but I think it's a feeling of it was a different era," he said.

"Wooden racquets were being used. Now, of course, you've got such more speed with serving and the spin on the ball.

"But also the other thing that Roger has that I don't think that I had was the amount of great champions that are actually in the draw.

"There are so many players now competing and the world is playing the game of tennis and I think that's the thing, it's hard to challenge and say my era was tougher than his era.

"But it was a matter of when you've got a small little racquet to play with ..."

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Federer perfect? Sampras was better

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The performance of Peter Sampras against Andre Agassi in the 1999 Wimbledon final is still quite easily the most impressive ever seen.


It is in the opinion of many, the legendary Rod Laver included, that Roger Federer is the greatest player the tennis world has ever seen. Indeed, his display against Andy Roddick in the Australian Open semi-finals (6-4, 6-0, 6-2) had commentators and pundits alike discussing whether it might be the most complete performance ever on a tennis court.

While Federer deserves every plaudit he receives, it is my opinion that this is not the ultimate display of perfect tennis. No, for that we need to go back eight years to the Wimbledon 1999 men's final, when Pete Sampras took on Andre Agassi.

The reason that this match stands out as the most complete performance and arguably the greatest tennis match I have ever seen is because Sampras was playing a competitor with far more to his game than Roddick. To beat an in-form Agassi in three straight sets in the Wimbledon final, you have to be playing almost perfect tennis. Sampras did just this, and later commented that it was ‘'probably the best I'd played in many years, I couldn't have played any better, plain and simple.'’

Sampras started Wimbledon on the back of poor form. While he had managed to win the Stella Artois Championships at Queens the week before, prior to this he failed to proceed beyond the quarter-finals of any ATP tournament in 1999.

The British press were even more excited than usual; perhaps this was Tim Henman’s chance to win the Wimbledon crown he craved so much. However, as soon as the Championships began, Sampras disposed of every challenge that came his way, and did not drop a set until his quarter-final against Mark Philippoussis. Indeed, I might not be writing this article had the Australian not had to retire injured early in the second set. In the semi-finals, Sampras beat Henman with relative ease despite dropping the first set, and the stage was set for the final all tennis fans wanted - Sampras v. Agassi.

Sampras played a brand of tennis on that summer day that no player may never be equalled. The scoreline, 6-3, 6-4, 7-5, suggests that while Sampras may have been playing his best, Agassi was struggling to string shots together. This was not the case. The 1992 champion from Las Vegas was playing incredibly well, but Sampras made him look pedestrian.

Sampras was unstoppable. He served 16 aces, saved the four break points against him (all in one game in the first set), won an incredible 72 percent of the points when serving and broke Agassi three times in the match. His serve-volleying was sublime, his groundstrokes perfect; it is hard to sum up just how complete his performance was. And yet this match is only discussed by the hardcore tennis fans. To many, this was a disappointing final due to the relative ease with which Sampras won; anyone who did not relish seeing a master at work should not consider themselves a tennis fan all.

The Sampras v. Agassi Wimbledon final of 1999 was a case of two genuine all-time greats playing on the greatest stage. Federer’s performance against Roddick cannot be compared to Pistol Pete’s showing in 1999 for the simple fact that the man he was playing against cannot be considered anywhere near Agassi's level.

It is easy to see why Roddick lost; he attempted to change his usual tactics against Federer and come to the net, but many of his approach shorts were incredibly short, allowing the world number one so much time to use his brilliant array of groundstrokes. Roddick relies a lot on his serve, and Federer’s simple response is just to block the ball back.

Roddick is one of the top five players in the world, but he is so much less talented than his opponent that we cannot look at Federer’s performance in this match as being the greatest of all time. This is not Federer’s fault, he can only play who he is drawn against, but I just hope that sooner or later a competitor of a closer standard to his makes him play the way Sampras did to on that memorable day in 1999.
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OUR WEEKLY GIVE-AND-TAKE ON HOT TOPICS IN SPORTS
BY MIKE BALL, TIM CURTIS AND CHARLIE SVIHLIK






FEDERER EXPRESS

MB: Tennis today is down the pecking order in sports, but there is nothing more fun than watching greatness. While you were sleeping Wednesday/Thursday, Roger Federer destroyed Andy Roddick in the Australian Open to reach his seventh straight Grand Slam final. In his 6-0 second-set win, Federer lost six points. Wow.

CS: Is R-Fed the greatest player in history? Ask Pete Sampras? Anyhow, it's better to have challengers and parity in a sport than a sport become a parody of itself.

TC: The next time you watch him play, just focus on his footwork. It's amazing how he knows where to be before the ball is even returned.
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if that were true soe 5 years ago
I would love to have seen SAmpras kick his ass again at wimbledon

i am losing interest in tennis because of roger
all the media talk about genuis& greatness & blah blah
where were they when pete was playing
then again i look at the current crop & i find it easy to understand
roddick is limited at best, but he is america's best hope

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Hi almouchie. Long time no see...

Yes, it is really boring to watch Roger`s winning again and again... Unfortunately I`m almost sure that Roger will break Pete`s record
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me too , but at least he once was the record holder and he hold these 3 for almost 5 years:

1. the most slams won
2. the longest weeks as no.1
3. 6 consecutive years ended as no.1


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Yes, it is really boring to watch Roger`s winning again and again... Unfortunately I`m almost sure that Roger will break Pete`s record

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i don't understand, in this article, once, laver said he believes roger is the greatest, which is as follows:

"Asked directly if the Swiss ace was the greatest player ever, Laver said: "I have to believe it because he's got every shot in the book"."

but then again in the same article, he said does not know whether he himself or roger is greater, which is as follows:

"Laver said it was impossible to say whether he was better than Federer.

"I guess I'm proud of his career as well as my own, but I think it's a feeling of it was a different era," he said.

"Wooden racquets were being used. Now, of course, you've got such more speed with serving and the spin on the ball."


then who does he think is the greatest, him or roger

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me too , but at least he once was the record holder and he hold these 3 for almost 5 years:

1. the most slams won
2. the longest weeks as no.1
3. 6 consecutive years ended as no.1

Dream on Mimi, I love you my dear, but I am not giving up hope yet, that he will not break these records.
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i don't understand, in this article, once, laver said he believes roger is the greatest, which is as follows:

"Asked directly if the Swiss ace was the greatest player ever, Laver said: "I have to believe it because he's got every shot in the book"."

but then again in the same article, he said does not know whether he himself or roger is greater, which is as follows:

"Laver said it was impossible to say whether he was better than Federer.

"I guess I'm proud of his career as well as my own, but I think it's a feeling of it was a different era," he said.

"Wooden racquets were being used. Now, of course, you've got such more speed with serving and the spin on the ball."


then who does he think is the greatest, him or roger

All of these people are just talking are have to say something mimi but to give Laver his due, he didn't say Roger is the greatest, he say he could become the greatest.
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ai angiel, he already got 10 slams and he is only 25, just won 5 more and he will break the record, its so easy for him, he almost won 3 every year, so i am sure that he will break the record next year, tell me, who can beat him??

but pete is still the greatest in my eyes, his mental toughness and fighting spirit won my vote
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Dream on Mimi, I love you my dear, but I am not giving up hope yet, that he will not break these records.

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