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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

are we not going to "in" any more? some managers send out pms to remind the committed players to post picks so that we don't forget to play. I thought that's why we "in"ed.

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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

We're not going to "in" any more. The manager probably did it to make sure "committed" players do commit, because IN posts aren't of any significance.

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We're not going to "in" any more. The manager probably did it to make sure "committed" players do commit, because IN posts aren't of any significance.
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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

i thought RG was the one with one extra day (as opposed to USO)? or am i wrong? all i know is that RG starts on sunday and USO starts on monday
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i thought RG was the one with one extra day (as opposed to USO)? or am i wrong? all i know is that RG starts on sunday and USO starts on monday
Yes, but Suicide doesn't, it's always Monday.
The extra USO day is because Round 128 is for 3 days, and AO and RG have it in 2 days.

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oh, ok. thanks
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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

Do away with the back-ups. It does not happen on the court. Anyone who thinks back-ups are a good idea should then favour back-up back-ups, no?

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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

It is true that back-ups are rarely used, but I look at it this way,
if a ATP player retired before the deadline, players who picked from that match would be allowed to pick somebody else, right? You can change your pick before the deadline for whatever reason. So having BU just allows the replacement if a player retires after the suicide deadline, if lets say his match is in the evening session, or even if he retires before the deadline, players don't have to post again, and maybe some wouldn't know in time anyway.
But lets wait for other opinions.

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I would keep with the current rules, but I have 1 suggestion.

In weeks when there is one tournament with a 28 player field and one with a 32 player field, please take the bigger field automatically.
The game really doen´t make much sense if there are only 3 matches on a monday
I just checked the calender, first week like this is Buenos Aires(32) / Marseille(28) / Memphis(32). (Would still need the poll for the two 32)
But only Memphis is ATP 500, do you suggest that we take ATP500 over 250 automatically as well?
I remember last season, an ATP250 won the poll against ATP500 (could have been at the very mentioned week), so Filipo made it the voted tournament but ATP500 point distribution.

These rules could be applied to 5, up to 10 weeks at best.
My opinion is, I'd sill go with poll always.

Again, we need more opinions.

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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

BU picks should stay, in a tounament I managed more than a few had to rely on their bu pick. in case of retirements we can't all come and change our picks in time b/c of time differences etc.

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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

Agree with Bashak and natashha, of course BU picks should stay. Not nice to go out because of retirement!

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Just so I'm clear, BU's are only used if no point has been played (ie a w/o). If there is a retirement after at least one point is played, BU is not used.
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Yeah, sorry! I mean a last minute withdrawal of course! You're right, retirements can still make you lose!

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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

Backups should stay. Nobody has to use them. Getting rid of them would only make sense if a win due to withdrawal would count just like a usual win. But I don't like that idea either.

Referring to polls, I think all tournaments of a week should be included. Category or quantity of players can be included in the opening post to make the decision easier.
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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

yes sorry, you're right. back-ups are not for retirements; withdrawals only. but still sometimes they withdraw one hour before their match so we can't keep up w/ posting new picks.

also, as far as i know it's not mandatory. so if a player doesn't want to pick a bu, that's ok.

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Just so I'm clear, BU's are only used if no point has been played (ie a w/o). If there is a retirement after at least one point is played, BU is not used.

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Re: Suicide Tennis - Suggestions For 2010

Something About The Race To Decide

I was checking out my FITD standings and I came across that game's rule for calculating race points, so I though maybe we could have similar for suicide. Here's the thing.

Option 1.
Last season, Race was calculated the same way as Rankings - you get to count only 18 tournaments, even if you play more. So in the end of the season, it's Race = Rankings. This is how it's done for the "real" ATP Race.

Option 2.
The other way is to count ALL the tournaments you play in the season. (I'm suggesting this only for the race, the rankings are better as they are.) Race is used only to determine the participants of WTF. So this way players who play Suicide every week would have slightly better chance to qualify. That's seems fair in my opinion. It's nothing drastic, if you're at 50th place the first way, you won't qualify this way either, and if you're top 10, you're qualified both ways. It can make difference only if you're about 20, played a lot tournaments, so you could overtake someone who had a couple good results, but played only several tournaments. So this way consistency matters.


Options are identical until 7 non-mandatory tournaments are played, so we have plenty of time to decide.

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