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Nguyên Hoang Thiên, young Vietnamese hope

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I introduce this thread as I see that the young Vietnamese Nguyên Hoang Thiên (only 14 so far, born 12th of march 1995) is doing well in the Orange Bowl 14 ( Orange Bowl 14 draw ).

He has reached the semifinal with all very easy wins.

It's not so often that Vietnamese are competitive in sports

I read that, and I found it quite good, especially that he's already 1.67 m tall (5 feet 6 inches) at 13 years old, which means he should not be one of these usual Asian small guys who are limited by their physical when they play with the seniors.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/sports/2009/02/826680/

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VietNamNet Bridge – Thailand has Paradon who entered the world’s top 12 tennis players. Vietnam hopes to have a future world-ranking tennis star because it currently has a talent named Nguyen Hoang Thien, 13.

Thien was born in 1995. He started practicing tennis at the age of 8. His first “coaches” were ball gatherers on his father’s tennis court. Two years later, he won the championship of the National U-10 Tennis Tournament 2005.

In September 2005, Thien’s family sent him to Florida (USA) to study tennis at the Sharde Brook Tennis Institute. After one year in the US, Thien had his own coach, an Indian-American, Mr. Ashok S. Bikkannavar (paid $50,000/year). The coach treated Thien like his son. He taught the boy not only how to play tennis but how to behave. Thien has become his pride.

Thien has travelled through all 52 states and commonwealths in the US to attend various tennis tournaments for kids. He ranked 21st at the America U12 Tennis Championships.

Thien’s talent was revealed at the Vietnam-Thailand Tennis Tournament at the Phu Tho Club in HCM City in 2007. There Thien defeated Thailand’s Rungseeraif to become the champion of the Men’s U12 Championship.

In 2008, Thien impressed the tennis circles when he became the champion of the Men’s U14 of Asia, Bahrain, India, South Korea, and the champion of the U18 ATF Binh Duong tournament. He is now the top player in Asia’s U14 ranking.

Thien has impressed others with his professional style of playing, even when playing against rivals who are 4-5 years old and have higher rankings. Many tennis experts from Australia, Japan, South Korea, and Thailand were surprised witnessing Thien trounce older rivals at the Asian Tennis Championship 2008. They saw Thien’s victory as a great exploit.

Coach Ashok also highly applauded Thien’s talent. He said Thien has a good physique (13 years old, 1.67m, 60kg), good techniques, good health, and good thinking as well so Thien can go further as a professional tennis player. The coach also said that Thien has a great passion for this sport and the boy is the most special case he has come across in his career as a tennis coach.

Thien’s biggest wish is to enter the top 100 of the International Tennis Federation (ITF) before he reaches the age of 20. The US has invited Thien to join its national tennis team but Thien’s parents want their son to play tennis as a Vietnamese athlete.

It is the first time in Vietnam’s tennis history there is a player who was exceptionally allowed to take part in the Australian Open Tennis Tournament for U-18 players, the first Grand Slam of the year. That player is Hoang Thien.

Thien’s idol is the Swiss player R. Federer. Besides tennis, Hoang Thien is a 13-year-old boy who loves playing computer games. Being supported greatly by his family, Hoang Thien is the great hope of Vietnam’s tennis in the future.
Thiên is strongly supported by his rich father :

http://www.vietnamoverseas.com/?p=767

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VietNamNet Bridge – Thailand has a tennis player – Paradorn – who has entered the top 12 of the world. How about Vietnam? A Vietnamese man has begun to answer this question by affirming he will “invest US$1 million to have a professional player”.

That’s the director of the IMC Real Estate Trading Company, Nguyen Ngoc Minh, the father of Nguyen Hoang Thien, the new champion of the U-12 Tennis Tournament (Prudence Cup 2007).

Watching the matches of Nguyen Hoang Thien at this year Prudence Cup, tennis experts were really surprised about his great progress. With powerful serves, accurate and intelligent back hands, Hoang Thien defeated Nguyen Tuan Anh (from Binh Duong province) in the final match to win the championship.

Before entering the final, Hoang Thien set a record by winning four consecutive matches.

To have this impressive achievement, apart from his innate talent, his passion for tennis and laborious practice, the investment from his family is a decisive factor.

Nearly two years ago, discovering Thien’s talent for tennis, his father, Mr. Nguyen Ngoc Minh, decided to send the boy to the US for a long-term training course.

In his first year there, Hoang Thien studied tennis at the Florida Young Tennis Institute. After the first year, with US$50,000 of investment, Mr. Minh said that his son’s playing skills were a little better. However, for a professional career, it was not enough.

In early 2007, Mr. Minh hired a professional tennis coach from the US, Ashok Bikkannvar, at a yearly pay of $50,000, to teach his son. He also hired a Vietnamese American child-minder to take car of his son during his time in the US.

According to Mr. Minh, he has paid more than $100,000 for his son so far this year and this amount of money will be higher.

With this huge investment, Hoang Thien now ranks 29th of 1,370 U-12 tennis players of Vietnam.

About Hoang Thien, tennis coach Doan Le Minh said: “If the current investment is maintained, Hoang Thien will progress farther in the future. He is 12 years old now and with what he has proved and with his investment, Hoang Thien can become a professional tennis player.”

“My ambition is to train Hoang Thien to enter the top 100 tennis players of the world at the age of 20. The disadvantage of Southeast Asian players is their small physical statures but height is not a problem for Hoang Thien because he is 1.58m at the age of 12. I think that the decisive thing is the financial capability of Thien’s family,” said coach Ashok Bikkannvar.

However, Mr. Bikkannvar’s worry has been solved by Mr. Ngoc Minh’s affirmation. “In our current situation, my family can support Thien for the next 5-6 years. My family is ready to spend US$1 million to have a professional tennis player. We only hope that the sports sector of Vietnam has a good legal corridor and will help us in terms of formalities so that Thien can attend all tournaments in the competition system of the International Tennis Federation.”

Three months ago, when coming to Vietnam for the Challenger 2007 tournament, Urapathy, an international tennis expert, said: “Vietnam doesn’t lack talents. This country’s tennis ranking has not improved because it doesn’t have patrons who can invest huge amounts of money in this sport like in Thailand and Indonesia.”

However, Mr. Nguyen Ngoc Minh is now ready to spend $1 million on his son.
PS : I'm not originary Vietnamese myself despite my pseudo.

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Thank Duong for paying attention to Thiên I've never met Thiên myself or watched him play but I'm following him recently and feel very encouraging about his results
here is his facebook HoangThien

Some pics of him at Eddie Herr 2009









btw, do you know how to know where he will play? I don't follow juniors much
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btw, do you know how to know where he will play? I don't follow juniors much
I think Springer89 can better answer you : you can send him a PM.

I guess you can try to find some entry-lists there :

http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/

but I think Springer89 can tell you better

Thanks for the photos, he looks quite mature physically for a 14 year-old player.

I know it's so seldom that Vietnamese people have good sportsmen

We will see how far he can go in this Orange Bowl 14, his results have been quite impressive so far, few games lost after the first round

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Thank Duong, I'll ask Springer

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Thanks for the photos, he looks quite mature physically for a 14 year-old player.
he does look more mature than his age and a bit shy when talking to the press

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I know it's so seldom that Vietnamese people have good sportsmen
yes, but I think that it's the financial matter, tennis is considered a fancy sport to become professional in our country

His current coach is Roy Coopersmith, but it seems that the contract is expired at the end of the year, it's not certain who will coach him next year.
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Hoàng Thiên reached the final of the Orange Bowl 14 (he won the SF 7/5 6/3 over Madregallejo) : he will meet the American McKenzie McDonald in the final :

http://tennislink.usta.com/tournamen...31&E=6&D=M&S=F

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Thien's warm-up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMYEX...eature=related

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From Colette Lewis' twitter
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JOB--Nguyen is boys 14s champion with 7-6(2), 6-0 victory over McDonald
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Good boy!
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Some pics of him after winning Orange Bowl
They literally put oranges in the bowl





I don't know who he is but the little boy is definitely cute

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Banhhe, this is from Collette Lewis' Blog (she is junior and college tennis expert) http://tenniskalamazoo.blogspot.com/

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The boys 14s final, which began just as the boys 12s final was ending, showcased just how much difference two years makes in boys' development. Thien Nguyen's 7-6(2), 6-0 win over Mackenzie McDonald was a display of mature and varied tennis, and the 14-year-old from Vietnam gave one-handed backhand aficionados plenty to savor.

Nguyen, the No. 8 seed, fell behind 2-0 in the first set, and he admitted that nerves were the primary reason. But once he broke back in the third game, Nguyen became more comfortable and showed no jitters when serving down 4-5 and 5-6 in the first set. In the tiebreaker, McDonald couldn't find the court, making five unforced errors, and Nguyen took control of the match with a break in the second game of the second set.

"In the first two games I was back far from the baseline, so he was controlling the point a lot," said Nguyen, who trained in California for three years. "So from the third game I started to play inside the baseline and take the ball early."

Once Nguyen's confidence rose, he played even more aggressively, hitting winners from some unlikely positions on the court and missing very little, even though he was often going for risky shots. He sensed that McDonald, a former doubles partner, was discouraged after the tiebreaker.

"In the second set he was kind of down a little bit," said Nguyen, who is the first player from Vietnam to claim a Junior Orange Bowl title. "That was my advantage to control the match."

McDonald, a No. 9 seed from Piedmont, Calif., didn't disagree.

"In the second set, there wasn't enough energy out there," said McDonald, who had won a three-hour battle with Kyle Edmund of Great Britain in the semifinals. "I kind of let up a little bit. He gave me nothing, threw in those slice backhands, and didn't give me anything to work with. He just made a ton of balls and fought hard on every point."

For Nguyen, the excitement of winning his first major international match left him shaking, unable to comprehend the achievement.

"I don't know when I'll realize it, but now, I still can't believe it."
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McDonald's opponent in Wednesday's final is a former doubles partner, No. 8 seed Thien Nguyen of Vietnam, who defeated Nikko Madregallejo of the U.S. 7-5, 6-3.

"Even though he's from Vietnam, he moved to California for a few years, and I got to know him pretty well, so we're pretty good friends," McDonald said. "Two or three years ago we played some nationals together; he's a good guy."

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You are wellcome, Banhhe. I am fan of Junior tennis but 14 is too young for my eyes I know nothing about boys in this age, thanks to Lewis. Junior Orange Bowl U14 is a huge achivement I can say - look at list of past champions - Tomic, Del Potro, Tipsarevic, Haas, Mathieu, Rochus, Magnus Norman. Hope Thien will be like them, not like Artem Sitak...
I liked the fact Thien played aggressive and active, love this style.

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Crap. Really sad to here. Someone has to ban these crazy parents from sport
I hope Thien will be all right but... Ambitious daddys (especially dads with lot of money) can spoil everything...

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This is just really sad

I saw a video clip about Thiên couple months ago and I think that Roy, you had really good relationship with the boy.

The boy is still developing with his techniques and game as well as his physical, he still plays at junior level I wonder how many talented players have been ruined by those kinds of daddy

Anyway, I hope all the best for Thiên in 2010 and for you too, Roy as one door closed, another door will open
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Thiên is attending Oman Open and seeded number 4
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