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Novak Djokovic - Britanski pasos

Noleta Djokovica stvarno obozavam, i gledam meceve njegove uvek kad imaju na tv-u, i ima zaista podrsku cele nacije, svi se ponose njim, ali jedna stvar mi bukvalno lomi srce.

Kako moze da mu padne na pamet i da POMISLI da igra za veliku britaniju. I na pitanje da li ima sanse da igra za njih, on da kaze "nikad se ne zna". Pa bre nije ovo neki klub koji tek tako moze da promeni. Bukvalno mi se place kad cujem tako nesto, pa zar smo mi toliko OGAVNA nacija da ga je sramota da igra pod zastavom Srbije.

Zasto im lepo ne kaze "Ne, ja sam Srbin, rodjen i odrastao u Beogradu, i nema nikakve sanse da igram za Veliku Britaniju" I KRAJ. A ne "NIKAD SE NE ZNA".. O BOZE!
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Noleta Djokovica stvarno obozavam, i gledam meceve njegove uvek kad imaju na tv-u, i ima zaista podrsku cele nacije, svi se ponose njim, ali jedna stvar mi bukvalno lomi srce.

Kako moze da mu padne na pamet i da POMISLI da igra za veliku britaniju. I na pitanje da li ima sanse da igra za njih, on da kaze "nikad se ne zna". Pa bre nije ovo neki klub koji tek tako moze da promeni. Bukvalno mi se place kad cujem tako nesto, pa zar smo mi toliko OGAVNA nacija da ga je sramota da igra pod zastavom Srbije.

Zasto im lepo ne kaze "Ne, ja sam Srbin, rodjen i odrastao u Beogradu, i nema nikakve sanse da igram za Veliku Britaniju" I KRAJ. A ne "NIKAD SE NE ZNA".. O BOZE!

Ne vjerujem da će Nole igrati za Veliku Britaniju, ali ako se to desi razlog će biti samo bolji uslovi, jer sigurno ga nije sramota da igra pod zastavom Srbije.

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Zaista ne bih voleo da Nole prestane igrati za Srbiju, ali...

Prvo, nema tu nikakve ogavnosti Hingis je Slovakinja, Navratilova i Lendl Cesi, a sta reci za Pirs i Rusedskog koji su iz Kanade, pa su ipak promenili drzavljanstvo iako je malo tako razvijenih zemalja, znaci takve stvari se desavaju i u sredjenijim zemljama nego u Srbiji.

Da je Noletu Srbija ogavna on bi preskakao igranje u DC, a on je igrao sve meceve nase reprezentacije i sa ponosom nosio zastavu kad nas je uveo u play-off, a mogao je tada igrati kvalifikacije za neki turnir koji bi mu doneo tada znacajne poene i novac sto ce reci da sumnje u njegov patriotizam ne stoje.

Nole je ove godine zaradio preko 400000 dolara i tesko je njemu ponuditi neka sredstva, cuo sam da mu je i stari veoma bogat covek. Verujem da njemu britansko drzavljanstvo (osim odredjenih komercijalnih stvari, mada ako si u prvih 5 nije ni bitno odakle si) ne bi ni donelo previse, ali njegova majka zeli osigurati celu porodicu na osnovu Noleta.

Ono sto mi najvise smeta u celoj ovoj prici je da je to sa drzavljanstvom davno isplivalo na povrsinu, ali se svi nadlezni prave mutavi i razmisljaju u stilu "nece valjda" i nadaju se da ce odluciti njegov patriotizam. Mislim da je Nole veliki dragulj i da se za njega treba boriti ponuditi mnogo stvari (poreske olaksice, mogucnost pokretanja biznisa, diplomatske pasose, obezbedjivanje svih mogucih uslova njegovoj braci, dati njegovom starom neku funkciju u savezu...), a ako je on stvarno odlucio da ode onda ne treba zaliti nego reci, eto borili smo se i pokusali, ali nije vredelo. Bojim se da se ovde mnogo stvari ostavlja Noletu na savest, a da se nista konkretno ne radi da se on zadrzi, nego se svi molimo Bogu i nadamo se, a Nole sa izjavama "nikad se ne zna" ceka da vidi ko ce sta ponuditi, a sve ima svoju cenu pa i patriotizam, svi pamte Moniku, Jelenu Dokic i Natasu Janic, a gde su jos hiljade hirurga, inzenjera, doktora nauka koji su takodje otisli zato sto ovde niko nije zagrizao da ga zadrzi.
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Unfortunatelly , I understand most of what is written but it's so ignorant about Novak and the so called Britain issue where it's not worth responding and was cleared up about a month ago. I wish I didn't understand it and it's written like a child trying to understand grown up issues . Seriously there needs to be mods to clear up these threads , close them up and clean the mess. This thread needs to be closed if there was ever any Jess, do you have powers ?
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Unfortunatelly , I understand most of what is written but it's so ignorant about Novak and the so called Britain issue where it's not worth responding and was cleared up about a month ago. I wish I didn't understand it and it's written like a child trying to understand grown up issues . Seriously there needs to be mods to clear up these threads , close them up and clean the mess. This thread needs to be closed if there was ever any Jess, do you have powers ?

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I don`t see anything ignorant and someone who doesn`t understand Serbian according to you will think that we wrote some ugly things about Nole and that is not true... Please don`t be unfair. There is nothing for cleaning.
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I don`t see anything ignorant and someone who doesn`t understand Serbian according to you will think that we wrote some ugly things about Nole and that is not true... Please don`t be unfair. There is nothing for cleaning.

Can you tell the rest of us what that poster said then? So far the English speakers only have ezekiel's word to go on.

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I must disagree with ezekiel. I don't think that this thread should be closed, as this issue clearly has not been resolved.

There are fans who want to know more, or just to share their views because that's the purpose of a forum - it's a place for public debate - and I would just like to welcome Achiles to Novak's message board.

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Furthermore, if this issue was all discussed and put aside, Nole wouldn't have to answer to journalists who are quite persistant - this question is always there, it's often the first question he gets!

A josh bih da dodam da ne bih voljela da Nole pochne da igra za UK, ali ukoliko se to i desi moram da kazhem da bih ga u potpunosti razumjela. Samo zheli najbolje za sebe i za svoju porodicu.

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I must disagree with ezekiel. I don't think that this thread should be closed, as this issue clearly has not been resolved.

There are fans who want to know more, or just to share their views because that's the purpose of a forum - it's a place for public debate - and I would just like to welcome Achiles to Novak's message board.

Ahile, dobro doshao!

Furthermore, if this issue was all discussed and put aside, Nole wouldn't have to answer to journalists who are quite persistant - this question is always there, it's often the first question he gets!

A josh bih da dodam da ne bih voljela da Nole pochne da igra za UK, ali ukoliko se to i desi moram da kazhem da bih ga u potpunosti razumjela. Samo zheli najbolje za sebe i za svoju porodicu.

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I agree that it should be able to be discussed! I only knew what ezekiel had said that it was offensive in some way, but if you and Novak Dj both say that it isn't, then obviously it's not at all a problem.

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Noleta Djokovica stvarno obozavam, i gledam meceve njegove uvek kad imaju na tv-u, i ima zaista podrsku cele nacije, svi se ponose njim, ali jedna stvar mi bukvalno lomi srce.

Kako moze da mu padne na pamet i da POMISLI da igra za veliku britaniju. I na pitanje da li ima sanse da igra za njih, on da kaze "nikad se ne zna". Pa bre nije ovo neki klub koji tek tako moze da promeni. Bukvalno mi se place kad cujem tako nesto, pa zar smo mi toliko OGAVNA nacija da ga je sramota da igra pod zastavom Srbije.

Zasto im lepo ne kaze "Ne, ja sam Srbin, rodjen i odrastao u Beogradu, i nema nikakve sanse da igram za Veliku Britaniju" I KRAJ. A ne "NIKAD SE NE ZNA".. O BOZE!
Achilles (his first post, maybe he didn`t know that a lot of Nole`s fans here don`t understand Serbian) adores Nole, watches his all matches and thinks that whole nation like and is proud of Nole, but one thing breaks his heart.

How Nole can ever imagine to play for GB, because when they asks him is there any chance for playing for GB he allways answers "you`ll never know". Achilles thinks country team isn`t club that it is easy for changing. He feels he`s going to cry when he hears something like that when someone is ashamed playing for Serbia.

Why doesn`t he told them I`m Serbian, born and grown in Belgrade and there is no chance for playing for GB. THE END. And not "You`ll never know. OMG!
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Ne vjerujem da će Nole igrati za Veliku Britaniju, ali ako se to desi razlog će biti samo bolji uslovi, jer sigurno ga nije sramota da igra pod zastavom Srbije.
I don`t beleive Nole will play for GB, but if it would happen the reason will be better conditions, he is not ashamed playing under Serbian flag.
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Noleta Djokovica stvarno obozavam, i gledam meceve njegove uvek kad imaju na tv-u, i ima zaista podrsku cele nacije, svi se ponose njim, ali jedna stvar mi bukvalno lomi srce.

Kako moze da mu padne na pamet i da POMISLI da igra za veliku britaniju. I na pitanje da li ima sanse da igra za njih, on da kaze "nikad se ne zna". Pa bre nije ovo neki klub koji tek tako moze da promeni. Bukvalno mi se place kad cujem tako nesto, pa zar smo mi toliko OGAVNA nacija da ga je sramota da igra pod zastavom Srbije.

Zasto im lepo ne kaze "Ne, ja sam Srbin, rodjen i odrastao u Beogradu, i nema nikakve sanse da igram za Veliku Britaniju" I KRAJ. A ne "NIKAD SE NE ZNA".. O BOZE!
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"I really adore Nole Djokovic, I watch his matches always when they are on tv, he really has the support of the whole nation, everybody likes him, but one thing really hurts my heart.

How can he come on the idea to think of playing for Great Britain. And when he's asked about the chances to play for them to answer: "You never know". Oh well, that isn't a club that can be changed just like that. LIterally I could cry when I hear something like that. Are we such an ugly nation, that he's ashamed to play under the Serbian flag.

Why doesn't he simply tell them: "No, I am Serbian, born and raised in Belgrade, and there is no chance at all to play Great Britain" And END. And not "You never know...." O Lord!

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I don`t beleive Nole will play for GB, but if it would happen the reason will be better conditions, he is not ashamed playing under Serbian flag.

I agree. You can see in many of his interviews and in his behavior that he is very proud to be Serbian. If his family changes citizenship, at this point I think it would be only to make things easier for his brothers with better conditions and connections. At this point it isn't really relevant for Nole himself.

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Thanks guys for the translation.

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