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trying out les poules in adelaide...

adelaide is starting tomorrow, and the main draw is out. as the #6 seed, arnaud has been drawn with benjamin becker in group 7. the remaining player in the group will be decided tomorrow in the elimination round.

funny that becker is reported to be positive about the RR format. hope arnaud will prove him and the unknown group mate (how else do you call him?) wrong.

arnaud was a math major at school and so should have no problem reading the draw: http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T...07/339/MDS.pdf
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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

sorry the 3rd player isn't that mysterious after all. it will be one of amer delic or chris guccione, depending on who gets elimiated first.

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

This system is quite strange... I'm not sure poules are a very good idea... we'll see !

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

arnaud's also playing doubles, with richard gasquet. doubles will still be straight knockout format.

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

this round robin thing is going to be confusing

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

arnauds group has becker and guccione. who the hell is benjamin becker?!

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

He's the guy who beat Agassi in the US Open.

Is Guccione really 6'7"/200cm?? Yikes 11" taller than Arnaud!
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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

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arnaud's also playing doubles, with richard gasquet. doubles will still be straight knockout format.

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Doubles will still be... what kind of, sorry? Via, don't curse that way!!! lol I think the first thing I dislike in RR format is that now there are too many terms around...
So well, at least doubles format hasn't been touched, that's already fine lol

Another good news is that Arnaud started his new year and new season with a victory: Clement/Gasquet (FRA) d (3)Aspelin/Haggard 61 62!!! Allez les gars! And Arnaud hasn't been playing doubles with Richard before, right?

As for singles... The draw's look is not that awful actually. The one of French Teams Championship was even worse There're just more draws now and they look a little bit more complicated; suppose people will get used to it soon. But I think all that RR idea is too complicated in general and is going to be confusing as Esther said. There can be some features which haven't been given into account by organizers so possibly we'll see some unexpected surprises soon. Or maybe not.

Anyway the start is done - as well as it's been done in Arnaud group where (WC)C. Guccione (AUS) beat B. Becker (GER) 75 63. Another new feature is that now we have to check the results of some extra players only because they play in the same group as our favorites Yes (thanks for the reminding, higherlaw!), Benjamin Becker seems to become famous last season when he showed some good results, climbed up in the rankings and got into history defeating Agassi (right after Grosjean I think) at his last US Open match. But I suppose it's better to get him and Guccione in a group rather than such guys as Pim-Pim or Luczak. And Arnaud seems to have to look forward to trying himself in a role of guinea-pig until Wednesday... Better luck to him!

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

irina, great effort on new year's day to dissect arnaud's prospects in adelaide

well the draw isn't too bad for arnaud... or for most seeded players, except the one who gets pim pim, who surprisingly got beaten first match anyway by florent serra, the 2nd ranked in the group

anyway what i REALLY don't understand now is, why isn't arnaud playing TODAY (tuesday) ????? why does mr becker have to rest, since he's the loser of the first match and should play arnaud next, not guccione, who might have a better reason for asking for a day off.

now if arnaud has to win this tournament, he will have to play every day wed/thurs/fri/sat/sun ..... how unfair is that ???????????? you bet this guinea pig is now grumbling

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where the hell were you in september?
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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

confirmed - arnaud is player becker today (wednesday), 2nd up on centre court.

there isn't any tv broadcast here
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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

got his first RR win!! 75 61

he now must beat guccione to advance... yes guccione is a very tall guy. but i don't know if he really is that tall.
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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

Thanks for all the updates!!! Arnaud
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now if arnaud has to win this tournament, he will have to play every day wed/thurs/fri/sat/sun ..... how unfair is that ???????????? you bet this guinea pig is now grumbling
I bet this smile you put was an exact Arnaud's reaction.
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there isn't any tv broadcast here
Well, I can understand that they [naively] suppose no one would get up at 5 am to watch tennis so they broadcast here everything but Adelaide... But how did it come you can't see an Australian tournament in Australia?! I wonder what they show you instead, some national sport, kangaroos races???

By the way, Via, Seb said that tomorrow (i.e. today, on Wednesday) he leaves to Sydney

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Re: trying out les poules in adelaide...

Happy new year everybody

To people who didn't know why Seb doesn't play Adelaide while arnaud and bruno play there, here the explanation.

Après deux semaines de préparation à Boca Raton (Floride) avec son préparateur, Alain Quintallet, un séjour familial de ski à 3 000 mètres d’altitude à Beaver Creek (Colorado) et un camp floridien avec les espoirs de l’USTA (la fédération américaine), Grosjean rejoindra ainsi plus vite que prévu les frères Clément à Sydney, pour faire corps avec son ami Arnaud et son coach, Bruno. Au fait, pourquoi – pour faire simple – ne pas avoir débuté l’année avec eux lors du tournoi d’Adelaïde ? « Parce qu’il y a là-bas le système de poules et que je n’y suis pas du tout favorable, répondit le Français, armé pour le réquisitoire. Ça réduit les qualifications. Avec le pré-tour pour les moins bien classés, ça nous fait six matches au lieu de cinq si l’on va au bout, alors que l’on dit qu’il faut jouer moins de matches. Ce n’est clair pour personne, même pas pour les joueurs, à qui il a fallu tout réexpliquer le premier jour là-bas. Apparemment, ce sont les directeurs de tournoi qui décident, et c’est honteux que les joueurs n’aient pas été consultés. S’ils maintiennent le système, avec les tout meilleurs qui auront encore moins de chances de se rater sur deux matches, ce ne seront plus que trente, quarante joueurs qui pourront vivre du tennis à court terme… » Très remonté, le Français doutait déjà de sa participation à deux autres tournois (le Queen’s et Washington), où sera encore expérimenté le système.


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