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Winter Indoor Season 2009

Anyone has an idea for the title ?

Schedule could be :
Heilbronn
Zagreb ?
Rotterdam Q
Marseille
Dubai ?

In Heilbronn he plays the deutsch WC: Stebe first round http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/commo...09/460/mds.pdf and no doubles, it seems he don't care of his doubles ranking
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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

You mean, which title will he win ???
Any idea.

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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

Come back of Clement/Llodra in Rotterdam Doubles Entry List

Today in Heilbronn he beats the young Stebe 6-3/7-5 but it was tough for Arno to break that guy Thursday he'll play Pless.
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Great ! Happy to see them back together

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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

it's hard to get used to arnaud or any player playing while melbourne is still on.

hope he gets back to better form in the next few weeks. well, at least his melbourne conquerer verdasco is still alive and playing today, so his loss was not so shameful. (it's more shameful losing to peter luczak imo )

edit: now verdasco is in the semis! with a better draw, arnaud should have been in the quarters

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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

No one is happy to see Arnaud in the quarterfinal?
He beat Pless 6-2 1-1 ret. and will play next against Karol Beck who kindly eliminated first seeded Lu.
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In Heilbronn he plays the deutsch WC: Stebe first round http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/commo...09/460/mds.pdf and no doubles, it seems he don't care of his doubles ranking
It's rather odd, the doubles thing A sort of another "I'm going to concentrate on singles" case?

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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

These match are not very useful for his level i think : a young guy who defended only his serve and a guy who retired but he won 18 pts lol. The points in a big challengers like this one are ridiculous except for the winner.

He's in Zagreb Main list now but he'll probably not play doubles there because Marco plays with Paulo and since Micka pulled out from Zagreb I'm not sure we'll see them in Rotterdam.

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No one is happy to see Arnaud in the quarterfinal?
He beat Pless 6-2 1-1 ret. and will play next against Karol Beck who kindly eliminated first seeded Lu.

It's rather odd, the doubles thing A sort of another "I'm going to concentrate on singles" case?
All these unknown challengers in germany, croatia, not easy to be motived to go there...

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All these unknown challengers in germany, croatia, not easy to be motived to go there...
used to be that tour level players play some challengers to pick up more points and rebuild their game... but 18 points for winning two matches and getting into the quarters, like soulage pointed out, is really measly (though i acknowledge that he won them too easily )

why not go to exotic locations around europe, marine? that aspect seem quite pleasant to me (perhaps not in winter)
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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

croatia's mediterranean coast is a lovely place...in summer
but germany...ugh...especially in winter, no way !

After 2 weeks in australia and a few days at home, I guess arnaud doesn't find these tournaments so exotic ! lol

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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

Lost 3-6/4-6 In first set he was broken on his first service game while he was up 40-15 then he won easily his others service games but had no break opportunities.In second set he came back from a break on first service game to lead 4-1 but lost the 5 following games and the match .

His stats on first serve are as awful as against Stakhovky. When you serve under 40% of first serve by set you can only pray for a win . I know his motivation for this challenger was not at the top but it stresses the problem of first serve. Zagreb is not the more exciting tournament but he needs a good results because his wins since the beginning of the year are not convincingly
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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

Do you think it's possible to try to improve his service over 30' ?
Service is the most important shot, Arnaud should do something with his
ah.. why not ?

Merci soulage for the stats.

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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

He has already been <30% in two sets against Stakhovky . In Zagreb, he draws Cilic who is really good since the start of the year and in Croatia he will be very motivated. In a way it's more exciting for Arno than playing against Beck in Heilbronn but considering the way he plays it will be tough to do an upset.
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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

drawing cilic in croatia is a bad draw indeed.

arnaud has served much better in the past, he doesn't have to improve it, he just needs to find it. when his form is off, every shot is off.

maybe he really wasn't motivated by a challenger quarter final losing 5 games in a row to lose the match seems to me a lack of focus, apart from any other reason.
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Re: Winter Indoor Season 2009

Today in Zagreb, our fabulous handball team beats Croatia in the final of world championships . Tomorrow in Zagreb our frenchy plays against the tall croatian at 5 pm . France 1 Croatia 0 Maybe Arno can take a bit of the winning spirit our national hadball team
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