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Australian Tennis - "State of Play" (ABC 4 Corners)

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Re: Australian Tennis - "State of Play" (ABC 4 Corners)

I watched the doco, good to see Four Corners pull out some evidence showing the incompetence of these cockchimps.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Well if this does not confirm why certain players do not get the selections, w/cs or funding they might deserve .

As anyone who has spoken up gets shut out.... That was the clearest thread in the show.

I hope this has opened the door for more people to tell their stories...
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Just listened to the extended versions of the interviews. Tiley wasn't sure of figures of Aus Men in Top 100 and Woodbridge struggled to name the players in teh Davis Cup Transitional Squad. And then after that he ssaid how much he knew about each player ! Lleyton intervied really well and his comments about Tony Roche were respectful and right on the mark. For Tennis Australia to not utilise the likes o Roche and Stoltenberg is beyond belief.
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Oh and I always wondered what happened to Stephen Donald? What a shame - he was a great talent. How can a promising player attend our national facility (AIS) and come out so confused that he quits! I wonder what the next bunch of AIS tennis players will do? Will they follow the same way? Shame Tennis Australia
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Go to the four corners website and watch the full interview with Woodbridge & Tiley. Woodbridge doesn't have a clue and Tiley couldn't lie straight in bed. I hope a few more people start to ask a few more questions and speak out. We as taxpayers and parents supporting our kids careers deserve better.
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Beggars belief that Woodbridge didn't know the names of our top junior players.

The doco just highlights that the wrong people are running the game in this country and don't have much interest in developing the talent.
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Re: Australian Tennis - "State of Play" (ABC 4 Corners)

I posted it on GM BG, but they are such fucking clowns.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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For all the times I've over heard TA coaches bagging parents, for all the times I have heard them say that kid wont make it,,,,

For all the work parents who work long hours, gave up every weekend , holidays and potential mortgage free lives, and but for all they sacrificed for tennis and kids instead,

For all the kids who worked their guts out and yes who were tossed around from coach to coach till they came out with spinning heads instead of forehands , who are told at 18 forget it ....

For all the great kids who trusted them and looked up to them , and who learnt in the end not to , for all the kids they labeled bad or not good enough who hadn't even matured yet,

AND yes after four years and all the stupid TA meetings to attend and programs to pay for , with broken promises of " CLEAR PLAYER PATHWAYS " TILEY SAID ?? HA HA when after four year they tip them all out and implement a youth policy instead !!

And for all the huge bucks hundreds of thousands of dollars these guys tuck themselves into bed with each night , while parents sweat to pay for the next tour... or lesson

WELL WELL WELL after this program it is well about time THEY , yes THEY who set way ward pathways from the start ,
Who cant count how many ( it is 2 ) in the top 100,
Who cant names the players in the transitional program ,,, where was Reid and Kelly in that ?
Who does so well out of blue paint,
Who snub our greats
Who yes , says.... our way or the highway ,,,
WHOS ARROGANCE ignores how many people they hurt .............. LET ALONE THE ONES WHO " ALSO WORK FOR THE SPORT " ...... TODD and CHANEL 7 and

OFTEN UNPAID UNFUNDED TODD !!!

I HOPE JUST FOR ONCE TENNIS AUSTRALIA LOOSE THE SLEEP.......
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Re: Australian Tennis - "State of Play" (ABC 4 Corners)

Had to read the transcripts as I had a uni lecture tonight so I will be interested to hear more of what happened in the video especially the extended interviews (im nearing my internet cap and can't really afford to download lengthy videos)

The transcripts really make the likes of Tiley, Woodbridge, Wood and Pollard look ridiculous. There's probably a slight bit of bias from the producers (I find it hard to believe that Woodbridge would struggle to name the up and coming Aussie players like they have made out) but nonetheless for the most part it seems spot on and makes for some good reading. They really did do their research well.

Seems to be generating a fair bit of attention in the media already and hopefully it puts the pressure on for something to be done.

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Had to read the transcripts as I had a uni lecture tonight so I will be interested to hear more of what happened in the video especially the extended interviews (im nearing my internet cap and can't really afford to download lengthy videos)

The transcripts really make the likes of Tiley, Woodbridge, Wood and Pollard look ridiculous. There's probably a slight bit of bias from the producers (I find it hard to believe that Woodbridge would struggle to name the up and coming Aussie players like they have made out) but nonetheless for the most part it seems spot on and makes for some good reading. They really did do their research well.

Seems to be generating a fair bit of attention in the media already and hopefully it puts the pressure on for something to be done.
I agree , I also hope this make people feel safe to come out and tell their own personal stories of having been through the TA system the past four years,,, eg National Academies and AIS, not only donald there has been a heap of talent wasted. Some of the stories I have heard are pretty harrowing.
I do not get the part about this being based around performance , we have constantly seem W/CS handed out to only those in the system, selections not based on ranking, the age discrimination which is going on, alot more needs to come out before things will change.
There is alot of very scary stuff going on in there thats for sure, Tiley is very calm under pressure and an amazing at throwing out the stats how ever at the end of the day their is a hell of lot that does not add up.
I hope the flood gates open with people speaking up.
This is just scraping the surface on so many issues , I would love to see the books, I mean really where does this money go.
As for Todd naming names that was dreadful. He completely forgot Reid and Kelly .
As for our 1991 year olds none made either AIS , nor the next program up so as far as todd saying every one is covered, thats rubbish....
heaps of holes in all these interviews however it will take a lot of watching to pick them all up.
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The transcripts really make the likes of Tiley, Woodbridge, Wood and Pollard look ridiculous. There's probably a slight bit of bias from the producers (I find it hard to believe that Woodbridge would struggle to name the up and coming Aussie players like they have made out) but nonetheless for the most part it seems spot on and makes for some good reading. They really did do their research well.

when you watch the extended version not only did he struggle but there is a massive pause and at the end someone came to his rescue and he threw Sam Groth's name in after being prompted. From what i have been told the players are Ebden, Klein, Millman, Groth, Jones, Kelly and Reid.

He came across as a proper twat. Then he has the hide to say that he knows every players and watched them all over the australian summer - one player told me he watched a few games of his match and then moved on. He will be crucified by the public if his implementation of his job is unnsatisfactory - a bit sad seeing as he has had a wonderful Davis Cup career and doubles career - seems like some egos love the limelight.

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I agree , I also hope this make people feel safe to come out and tell their own personal stories of having been through the TA system the past four years

Tiley is very calm under pressure and an amazing at throwing out the stats how ever at the end of the day their is a hell of lot that does not add up.
Doubt it will make people feel safe - look what happens to those that do speak up! No wonder so many kids decide to turn their back on TA - a clear pathway - what a load of b/s!

Tiley was calm but the question has still not been answered as to why we do not have any players following Hewitt. Perhaps if they had focussed on the group that were transitioning to seniors instead of dumping them and give themselves more time to stay unaccountable. By taking on the younger players they can always say that they have five to ten years more before they are accountable. Tennis has certainly not been the winner since their administration has been in place.
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Yes there is no excuse for not having players through, there were many great kids ready to go when Tiley got in but Cash was spot on, all had too many coaches,
and really you can see TA were only focused on the youth,

Maybe they didnt want to develop any one that they didnt develop THEMSELVES for TEN YEARS ??

Maybe they want the TA mark , on every player that comes through, yes interesting the marketing for what 6 players,, that is a conflict of interest fro sure.

This ten year thing is a complete excuse.
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Doubt it will make people feel safe - look what happens to those that do speak up! No wonder so many kids decide to turn their back on TA - a clear pathway - what a load of b/s!

Tiley was calm but the question has still not been answered as to why we do not have any players following Hewitt. Perhaps if they had focussed on the group that were transitioning to seniors instead of dumping them and give themselves more time to stay unaccountable. By taking on the younger players they can always say that they have five to ten years more before they are accountable. Tennis has certainly not been the winner since their administration has been in place.
Id say you would be safe to speak up now, obviously the sports commission really had no idea what's been going on , surely they wouldn't et this go on, so that might be a good place to start.
Surely they would be interested in the truth. !!!
Surely after what aired last night you would be able to see it would not be the players, coaches , parents who lie in this game.
Maybe they do need to know why so many players are tipped out or yes turn their backs on TA and why they are punished for that,
I am sure there is a lot of proof out there.
The more that comes out the better for the game.
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