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What the fuck? Hewitt is retiring before Rio, why put him in the team?! Fuck he's annoying. How can a player make the team and skips the whole clay season? mess.


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Fairfax has another story on the Kokk-Hewitt pairing which puts a positive spin on it to my mind, from Thanasi's point of view, a chance for a short training block on grass in London before he launches his campaign.

Has some nice stuff on the spur the players are providing to each other - I was a tad alarmed by the story's reference to the pressure the Kokk is evidently feeling to get at least a QF at Wimbledon though, on the basis that both Tomic and Kyrgios had done it as a teen. Trying to emulate or better the competition is obviously a healthy thing, but taken too far it can be counter-productive.

You can find the whole article here:http://www.canberratimes.com.au/spor...31-ghdifl.html

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On the spur to perform:

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Thanasi Kokkinakis has revealed Nick Kyrgios's rollicking 2014 Wimbledon win over Rafael Nadal was the spur for his own meteoric rise to grand slam prominence.

Heartened by his third-round run at the French Open and a glowing endorsement from his conqueror, Novak Djokovic, Kokkinakis can't wait to hit London's lawns to prepare for his own long-awaited assault at the All England Club.

When Kyrgios, then ranked 144th in the world, stunned top seed Nadal to reach the Wimbledon quarter-finals last year, Kokkinakis had just lost to Farrukh Dustov in the first round of a second-tier Challenger event in Winnetka, a small town just north of Chicago.

"It was definitely tough last year watching Nick break through. I'm not going to lie," Kokkinakis said after bowing out at Roland Garros with a 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 loss to Djokovic, the top-ranked title favourite.

"I was like, 'wow, what am I doing?'

"I had a look at it and I worked hard to put myself in these positions to play the greatest players on big courts."...
On the challenge of the Tomic/Kyrgios precedents:

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The 19-year-old admits Kyrgios and Bernard Tomic both reaching the last eight at Wimbledon as teenagers "definitely" serves as motivation.

"But at the same time I want to do it my own way and not try and rival what they are doing," he said.

"I want to kind of do better than them. I don't think I need to change too much what I'm doing. I think I'm on a good path."...
On training with Hewitt:

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"It's going to be good. Obviously he's won Wimbledon before and his game suits grass well," Kokkinakis said.

"I'm going to look to get to London and train with him. Might take one or two days off and then get straight into it on the grass.

"I have a lot to learn on grass but it's going to be good training with him.

Kokkinakis plans to play Queen's, possibly Nottingham and maybe also a Challenger event during the extended three-week grasscourt build-up to Wimbledon.

"Because I didn't really play grass last year," he said.

"I played a lot when I was real young, but the last few years I haven't played much on it.

"It's definitely different to out here [on clay], but I think if I can train right my game should suit it."
I hope he does play the Challenger (though would have preferred the 250s if he could have obtained a wc) but playing Nottingham the week before Wimbledon seems a dodgy proposition to me unless he still desperately needs some match practice at that point.
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An article on Sock, but contains an interesting stat, putting the Kokk's topspin second only behind Rafa:http://www.wsj.com/articles/jack-soc...lay-1433102600

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Sock’s forehand creates extreme spin. So far this season, his forehand generates an average of 3,336 RPMs of spin, according to data from Hawk-Eye, the line calling technology. Nadal is first at 3,413 RPMs, followed by Thanasi Kokkinakis, a talented young Australian, at 3,369 RPMs. (Hawk-Eye isn't used at every professional tournament or on every court at tournaments where it is used, and players often choose to hit shots with less spin.)
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Politics and appearances aside, Hewitt's position on the team has to be the one seriously in doubt. Would have been much better to try and pair up Groth or Peers and Kokkinakis in the doubles in my view, but I guess from a practical point of view, the doubles specialists will be hoping to go deep at Wimbledon whereas the Kokk won't![/QUOTE]

Hewitt's position on the team seems certain, as it is already decided I had thought.

Masur is only interim captain, keeping the seat warm for Hewitt. Hewitt becomes the real captain the moment he is not needed as a player. Emergencies aside, Hewitt is no longer needed as a player so he is effective captain.

Hewitt as a player though is completely another question. Certainly Hewitt expects to stay part of the team while not a player. This is what is planned. Hewitt has never had the style of a tennis player I follow, but he certainly has tenacity. Whether that tenacity will simply be annoying as a captain or coach role, or the tenacity will be a success is not yet known, but I think it should be given a chance.

This is not Masur putting Hewitt with Kokkinakis. Hewitt would be pulling the strings.
I am sure it would be Hewitt's decision in his role of Davis cup captain in waiting. Masur always said he was only captain until Hewitt was ready, and I would expect the transition has started.
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Hewitt's position on the team seems certain, as it is already decided I had thought.

Masur is only interim captain, keeping the seat warm for Hewitt. Hewitt becomes the real captain the moment he is not needed as a player. Emergencies aside, Hewitt is no longer needed as a player so he is effective captain....
I don't think this is the case.

First, Masur has said a couple of times that there is no such thing as 'interim captain' you either are or you aren't. Masur showed last time around that he was willing to make the hard calls in the interest of the team by putting the Kokk in over Hewitt. When last asked about whether Hewitt was in the team he said yes in principle, but clearly everything depends on the circumstances closer to the time (injury, grass season form, etc).

Secondly there has been a bit of speculation that Hewitt will take a couple of years break before taking over the captain role. I guess that will depend a bit on whether Masur is willing to keep going - hard to toss out someone if they are doing a great job (as he clearly is) and wants to do it! But he was a reluctant starter given his other commitments, taking it on out of a sense of duty, so may not want to keep going beyond this year. Personally I think a break for Hewitt to get some perspective would be healthy - not sure how much it was he vs Rafter vs Eagles calling the shots at IPTL last year, but between them they made a lot of very bad choices, seemingly dictated by the Hewitt ego, as to who should play what in the Slammers team that led to it coming last. I'd really hate to see that replicated in DC!

As to who initiated the doubles/training block with Thanasi, we can only speculate. But as far as I know Hewitt has never invited Kyrgios or Kokkinakis for training blocks a la Federer; when Kyrgios was asked who he would go to help for if he needed it he said Murray not Hewitt; and when left to his own devices, Hewitt chose to play doubles with Matt Reid back in March rather than anyone ever likely to be on the DC team.
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Fabulous piccies! Especially like the one with Pouille and the last, black and white one.
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Renowned coach Nick Bottieri says Kokkinakis will be a superstar. From his RG previews, on the R3 vs Djokovic (http://www.nickbollettieri.com/page-18115/3362560:

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Saturday match-ups: Djokovic vs Kokkinakis - Will Novak really push to "make his mark" on this up and coming superstar or will Kokk try and become the overnight superstar?
Went on to conclude after the match that they weren't ready to challenge the top guys - YET...
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An article on Sock, but contains an interesting stat, putting the Kokk's topspin second only behind Rafa:http://www.wsj.com/articles/jack-soc...lay-1433102600

Here's the money quote:
Didn't realise he spun the ball that much. Wow.
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A vid starring the Kokk that maybe Nick should watch!

https://youtu.be/GI1oIikEZOg via @YouTube
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Those who know me will know that I'm not one to make predictions very often, particularly not big ones, but...

I think Kokkinakis will be the most successful player born in the 90s. Injury disclaimer of course.
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Those who know me will know that I'm not one to make predictions very often, particularly not big ones, but...

I think Kokkinakis will be the most successful player born in the 90s. Injury disclaimer of course.
Bold call, but you could well be right. He certainly is looking increasingly like the one with the most complete game and best mentality of all the up and comers.

I have to admit I've been hoping we might see a return to those heady days of the late 50s and 60s when Australians regularly played each other in slam finals - loved that stat you or someone pointed out french open being won successively by five different Oz players, 1965-69.

But I'll happily take Federer-esq domination by the Kokk!

And in the meantime, some good news - he has a wildcard for Stuttgart, will be good to see how he goes...

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Bold call, but you could well be right. He certainly is looking increasingly like the one with the most complete game and bst mentality of all the up and comers.

I have to admit I've been hoping we might see a return to those heady days of the late 50s and 60s when Australians regularly played each other in slam finals - loved that stat your or someone pointed out french open being won successively by five different Oz players, 1965-69.

But I'll happily take Federer-esq domination by the Kokk!

And in the meantime, some good news - he has a wildcard for Stuttgart, will be good to see how he goees...
That's an amazing stat!

My biggest hesitation about my prediction (aside injuries) is Kokk's birth year. I think the ideal birth year is about 1998. So when you're 21, Djokovic and Murray are 32 and Nadal a year older.

Great news regarding Stuttgart. It's looking like Bordeaux will be his last Challenger (in the foreseeable future). After the Rome incident, I didn't really want him to play Bordeaux so he could say that he put Challengers behind him in 2014, but it turned out for the best. 205 points from his last two events is pretty awesome.

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