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Tumultous Thursday @ RG

Apologies for setting this thread up over a day in advance but I will have limited internet access for the next week...and I'd like to discuss the bottom half matches before I leave

Obviously not sure of the odds but...

Heavy leans:

Ljubicic over Hernandez -
Almagro over Blake @ 1.36 - should have too much clay experience
Gonzalez over Djokovic


Others:

Benneteau over Baghdatis - Frenchie has a good game for clay and I remain sceptical about Baggy on this surface.

RRH over C Rochus - better form player right now.

Karlovic over Hrbaty - Dom really really really struggles against this type of game...and Karlovic's serve is frightening even on clay now

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Re: Tumultous Thursday @ RG

Thought the thread was created too early

Anyway...just before I go....I have the odds for Thursday's bottom half matches and my thoughts for bets are as follows:

Almagro x Ljubo x Gonzalez @ 1.89....might take out Ljubo leaving the double @ 1.70

I really can't resist a pop at Karlovic @ 2.10 Will probably take him as a small single.


Leans:

Benneteau over Baghdatis @ 3.75
RRH over C Rochus @ 1.57
Norman over Monfils @ 4.33 - Gael struggles against the monster players
Mathieu over Serra @ 1.61
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Re: Tumultous Thursday @ RG

i wanted to start this thread with the name " T!ts Thursday"

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Re: Tumultous Thursday @ RG

Peer @ 1.32 is a value IMO
although she's down against Pironkova 0-2, she should still beat her. Shahar of last year isn't the same as this year, with 26 wins out of last 28 games

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Large stake on Hewitt for me.

Should have no problems with Montcourt and Hewitt steps it up in GS events for sure.

Will probably take: Verdasco/O Rochus/Step/Ljubo/Monfils as singles/parlay
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I'm not certain I'm brave enough to back Hewitt right now, and in my nightmares I can see him losing the first set 7-6 and cracking from there.

I'd say at similar odds, Alberto Martin or Tommy Haas are much better propositions if you want to go down the large stake route...just a thought. Haas would rather retire than lose to Waske I'm sure, but Alberto Martin definitley has the class and pedigree to put Kindlmann in his place.

My other early thoughts are I won't be betting on the Mathieu-Serra match, but I may be brave and plump for Rochus because he is one of my favourite players and I know he has the shots to come through a tricky match.

Almagro could prove to be one of the stars of the tournament, but I'm still not touching that match...I do hope Almagro wins though because I'd like to see him up against one of the big boys later on in the draw.

Have a sneaky suspicion Hrbaty will have one of his better days due to Karlovic's style. I can't see Karlovic winning this one 7-6 7-6 7-6 for some reason and it's because of that I may consider pairing up Hrbaty with Rochus, Martin and Haas. Ljubicic should win, but he plays a lot of tennis and sometimes loses when you least expect it. I will still probably back him, can't see him losing. Stepanek is better value than Ljubicic in my opinion.

Peer-Pironkova I'm not touching.

Perry over Morigami may happen. Kutuzova is interesting over Dementieva, also Jackson and less so, Kanepi. Myskina losing unexpectedly is always a possibility too..but I doubt it..Gagliardi over Hantuchova should not happen but you never know...Hantuchova can be very bad as well very good...though I think she'll win.

Ivanovic and Zheng are the only favourites I'll truly consider backing from the Women's side.
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Does anyone think Turusunov will throw away the Henman match? I wouldn't dream of it, but some bookmakers are offering 1.11 on Tursunov, where I thought It would be 1.05 if anything at all.

Maybe they are hoping Henman backers will take the plunge? I may back up the single I already have on Tursunov, but is that the sort of greed that backfires?

On a lighter note, Henman screamed 'F**KING TREEEEEEEEEEEEMENDOUS' angrily and sarcastically to himself and the scream was so loud and prolonged (it lasted about 8 seconds) that it actually scared the stadium into a silent place, even the umpire gave his warning meekly. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen Henman do.
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Opening bets:

£19.66 to make £1k

T Henman V D Tursunov D Tursunov to Win @ 1.11 Open
A Martin V D Kindlmann A Martin to Win @ 1.14 Open
O Rochus V J Vanek O Rochus to Win @ 1.22 Open
R Stepanek V D Sanguinetti R Stepanek to Win @ 1.12 Open
I Ljubicic V O Hernandez I Ljubicic to Win @ 1.11 Open
T Haas V A Waske T Haas to Win @ 1.20 Open
D Hrbaty V I Karlovic D Hrbaty to Win @ 1.66 Open
A Ivanovic V E Loit A Ivanovic to Win @ 1.11 Open
A L Groenefeld V J Jackson J Jackson to Win @ 3.75 Open
S Perry V A Morigami S Perry to Win @ 2.62 Open
J Zheng V I Lisjak J Zheng to Win @ 1.22 Open

£4 to make £70

T Henman V D Tursunov D Tursunov to Win @ 1.11 Open
A Martin V D Kindlmann A Martin to Win @ 1.14 Open
O Rochus V J Vanek O Rochus to Win @ 1.22 Open
R Stepanek V D Sanguinetti R Stepanek to Win @ 1.12 Open
I Ljubicic V O Hernandez I Ljubicic to Win @ 1.11 Open
T Haas V A Waske T Haas to Win @ 1.20 Open
A Ivanovic V E Loit A Ivanovic to Win @ 1.11 Open
E Dementieva V V Kutusova V KUTUZOVA to Win @ 7.00 Open

£5.48 to make £70

T Henman V D Tursunov D Tursunov to Win @ 1.11 Open
A Martin V D Kindlmann A Martin to Win @ 1.14 Open
O Rochus V J Vanek O Rochus to Win @ 1.22 Open
R Stepanek V D Sanguinetti R Stepanek to Win @ 1.12 Open
I Ljubicic V O Hernandez I Ljubicic to Win @ 1.11 Open
T Haas V A Waske T Haas to Win @ 1.20 Open
A Ivanovic V E Loit A Ivanovic to Win @ 1.11 Open
A Myskina V M Czink M Czink to Win @ 5.00 Open
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Baggy will destroy Benneatu.. Look who benneatu recently lost to on clay. He's got no clay game whatsoever.

Baggy is pretty decent on clay though.

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Last and safest bet (I hope)

£300 to make £575

A Martin V D Kindlmann A Martin to Win @ 1.14 Open
I Ljubicic V O Hernandez I Ljubicic to Win @ 1.11 Open
A Ivanovic V E Loit A Ivanovic to Win @ 1.11 Open
O Rochus V J Vanek O Rochus to Win @ 1.22 Open
R Stepanek V D Sanguinetti R Stepanek to Win @ 1.12 Open
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If Baghdatis does destroy Benneteau in 3 sets I will be impressed.
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Have a sneaky suspicion Hrbaty will have one of his better days due to Karlovic's style. I can't see Karlovic winning this one 7-6 7-6 7-6 for some reason and it's because of that I may consider pairing up Hrbaty with Rochus, Martin and Haas. Ljubicic should win, but he plays a lot of tennis and sometimes loses when you least expect it. I will still probably back him, can't see him losing. Stepanek is better value than Ljubicic in my opinion.
Karlovic won their two previous meetings 7-6, 7-6 and 7-6, 5-7, 6-4; so it has happened before. His serve is looking mighty impressive lately, even on clay. He was bombing first serves in at 72% against Patience and never faced a break point.
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Re: Tumultous Thursday @ RG

Karlovic over Hrbaty
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Blake/Almagro over 36.5
Ivo 2.0
RRH -3.5 games
Hernandez +8.5 games
Gagliardi +5 games

All 7/10

Gonzo/Djok over 35 10/10

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I think most of the favourites will win tomorrow.

Infact, I can't see any dogs winning.
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