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Talking "We're going to learn a lot about Juan Carlos Ferrero in the next 20 minutes"

Well, I just can't contain my excitement anymore. I have just seen the last hour of the Hewitt-Ferrero match that decided the 2000 Davis Cup and I had to tell you guys about it!!

First of all, if you haven't seen or don't have this match on tape, GET IT. It's a classic, and I haven't even seen the whole thing!

Of course, I'll skip ahead to the goods stuff--the last game. It was Hewitt serving after breaking back when Juanqui served for the match. Juan Carlos held two match points in the game: the first one he overhit and the second one, he dumped his best forehand shot straight into the net

A double fault by Hewitt gave Juan Carlos a third match point. After a long rally, his backhand crosscourt goes just wide and he sinks to his knees in despair. I think he might have actually cried out, too, berating himself.

A killer forehand crosscourt return gives Juan Carlos his fourth match point. It was just spot on the line and there was nothing Hewitt could do about it. So he serves. He didn't get a first serve in for the entire game, and again, had to serve a second serve.

The rally is long and intense, and it looks like Hewitt has Juan Carlos--Hewitt's storming into court and Juan Carlos just has to sort of throw out a shot--so he sticks his racquet out for a backhand and Hewitt watches it go sailing by because he thought for sure Juanqui would go for the safer cross-court shot!!

AND SPAIN WINS THE DAVIS CUP!

Juan Carlos falls to the ground, immediately in tears. The DC coach runs over and lands on top of him, and his fellow teammates join the pile.

Hewitt walks off court without the customary handshake

Juan Carlos, now standing, is being passed around for hugs and kisses among the team. The coaches and support team for the Davis Cup team are hugging and cheering themselves as Alex Corretja lifts Juanqui onto his shoulders and takes him to the other side of the court to meet King Juan Carlos.

It's an even cuter moment that the picure Mrs. B supplied. King Juan Carlos was sooooo cute during the match, when Juan Carlos broke Hewitt the first time he jumped up and clapped a like schoolboy

Juan Carlos is let down and he goes to his family, where his sisters immediately clench him and his father, also in tears, gives him a big kiss. Even his grandmother comes down to give him a hug!

The whole stadium was chanting "Fer-rer-o!" and some people were dancing a little and everyone was clapping--except for the whole contingent of Australian fans, but that's okay

I didn't expect to feel such a burst of emotion when I watched this match, since I knew the outcome and even knew the shot he would win it on. But there was still this gasp and sigh of relief, and squeal of happiness when he won!! It's totally the reason that he's my favorite player and it completely lifted my day.

Hewitt had 94 unforced errors to Juan Carlos's ~67 He was also in full asshole mode, arguing with every line call that went against him--or even for him, when he got a chance to replay the point he still went off on the chair umpire.

Kim was there to watch her boyfriend and she looked really nice. She was really stoic in the few shots I saw of her. I'm guessing she served as an emotional anchor for him back then because he was not completely in control.

The name of this thread is a quote from the commentator when Hewitt held break points on the fourth-to-last game (3-all) of the fourth set. Juan Carlos was getting a bit frustrated with himself, but a little glance to his coach was enough to get him to calm down and hold serve. It was a very important hold because Hewitt's serve took a serious nosedive from there.

Ugh, now I feel like I'm babbling. I don't know when I'll get to see the whole match (3:46 long!) but if you have any questions about the last game of the third set on, I'll be happy to answer them

YAAAAAAAAAY!

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Thanks for the description. You just make me want to change my plan for major acquisition. I was holding off purchase but I don't think I can resist this anymore. Hey, did you get it from tennistape.com or else? Bcos, it seems different outlet has different source of tape, I wonder what's the difference and who's better. Oh, I just assume you bought your tape online?
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Awwwwwww! That was a beautiful description TH, it really lifted me up. He burst into tears after his winning shot? How sweet! I can just picture all this in my mind.

Errr, how was Lleyton suppose to shake his hand when he was buried under a heap of bodies? Just playing the devil's advocate here.

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Not related to the tape...but there seems to be a little controversy regarding that handshake. The Australian team said the Spanish piled up on Ferrero and not letting him to shake hand first is unsportsmanlike. The Spanish team thinks Lleyton didn't really attempt to shake hand in the first place is unsportsmanlike. Obviously, the 2 teams were in the heat of the time. Juanqui said he did shake Lleyton's hand at the locker room later. And of course, all these are from all the articles that I read about that DC match that year.
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Thanks for the description. You just make me want to change my plan for major acquisition. I was holding off purchase but I don't think I can resist this anymore. Hey, did you get it from tennistape.com or else? Bcos, it seems different outlet has different source of tape, I wonder what's the difference and who's better. Oh, I just assume you bought your tape online?
Vera, I bought it from Sports Resources, this place in England. The match was from Sport 7 in Australia, and that made it even sweeter because of course the commentators were lauding their boy and even until Juanqui held match points did they think Hewitt could win the match. I think it costs ~$40 Canadian dollars, but I'm not sure.

I think the member "tennisvideos" on this board runs the place, so if you do a search on him/her you'll get their website.

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Not related to the tape...but there seems to be a little controversy regarding that handshake. The Australian team said the Spanish piled up on Ferrero and not letting him to shake hand first is unsportsmanlike. The Spanish team thinks Lleyton didn't really attempt to shake hand in the first place is unsportsmanlike. Obviously, the 2 teams were in the heat of the time.
Well, I saw the tape myself (hehe, I love that I can say that!) And it pretty much happened like this: Juan Carlos fell immediately to the ground, the DC coach ran over and fell on him, hugging him, and the rest of the group came over. By the time the cameras cut away from that action (which they replayed several times in slow-mo) Hewitt was pushing his way off court. So I think he just left, humiliated. He really was being a hotheaded jerk during the little part of the match that I saw.

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He burst into tears after his winning shot? How sweet! I can just picture all this in my mind.
He is so emotional! He also looked like he was about to cry when he broke Hewitt the first time and had his chance to serve for the match. He managed to keep his emotions in check, though

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Thanks for the info. Ya, I inquired about the price awhile ago, it's about $45 canadian buck per and discount if I get 3. So I'm getting 3. God, I'm dying to watch RG this year, that is "Juanqui dismantling Baldy" match.
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Thanks for the info. Ya, I inquired about the price awhile ago, it's about $45 canadian buck per and discount if I get 3. So I'm getting 3. God, I'm dying to watch RG this year, that is "Juanqui dismantling Baldy" match.
That's also a quality match, one I plan on watching when I get back home. It's so great, not only because PMac was saying he couldn't win, but because he DID win after Agassi tried to return serve from the service line!!

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Hehehe, I envy that you got to see it....Well, I think I'm making this my X'mas present. One should definitely allowed to indulge herself with high quality tennis in the festive season.
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One should definitely allowed to indulge herself with high quality tennis in the festive season.
Especially if you haven't seen tennis in over a month.

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Of course, high quality tennis like Juanqui spanking Baldy in a Grand Slam QF really don't come very often, I mean, that's not enough Grand Slam around to allow such spanking.

I'm glad that Baldy actually win all the Slams, he just can't blame it on the dirt now, can he.

Speaking of tennis on TV, do you know what's the ESPN schedule for TMC?
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Speaking of tennis on TV, do you know what's the ESPN schedule for TMC?
Yes, I do:

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November 12 (Tues) ESPN2 6 to 8 am EST

November 13 (Wed) ESPN2 6 to 8 am EST ESPN 1 to 3 pm EST

November 14 (Thurs) ESPN2 6 to 8 am EST ESPN 1 to 3 pm EST

November 15 (Fri) ESPN2 6 to 8 am EST ESPN 1 to 3 pm EST

November 16 (Sat) ESPN2 2 am to 4 am EST & 3:30 to 5:30 pm EST

November 17 (Sun) ESPN2 2 to 4:30 am

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wow, great review, Hackie. i was just actually looking on some tennis tape sites and i found that DC match at www.users.bigpond.com/tennisvideos1/

hope its the complete match and the commentary is in english. i also wanted to purchase his Toronto QF from 2001 against Pat Rafter, his DC match against Pat from 2000, the Agassi match from RG, and a 5-set match from Wimby i found. but of course i'm flat broke.

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Leo, that's the site I used!! It's wonderful

You can request that the commentaries be in English or another language. Like I said, the DC match was from Australian TV. They have great coverage down there (at least when they are the defending champions of the Cup )

I think I'd really like to see the Jarkko-Juan Carlos match from TMS Madrid, and one of the old Borg-McEnroe matches.

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