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Lafuria's Philosophy Threads: Must things have a cause?

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It's been a while since I've posted here anything significant. I've been busy , but I'm back now.

I feel its time for another one of these philosophy threads.

Today in class, amid a very interesting conversation regarding a book we are required to read, a question popped into my mind:

Can emotions, events or ideas spring up from nothing at all? If not, can minor events lead to revolutionary things? Could it well be that all of a sudden, with no direct connection to any previosu event, we all of a sudden have an idea, or feel an emotion towards another person?

Although I am by no means certain of the asnwer for this question, I will argue for the more complicated side of this question. Yes, I do believe in random quirks in life that can lead to people getting ideas or feeling emotions towards others for no reason. I wil go further and argue that even major international and universal events can spring up from nothing.

But before I elaborate, I want to hear MTF's opinion. So, what do YOU think?

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Re: Lafuria's Philosophy Threads: Must things have a cause?

Go to the arseclown voting thread and vote for me...

"Can emotions, events or ideas spring up from nothing at all? If not, can minor events lead to revolutionary things? Could it well be that all of a sudden, with no direct connection to any previosu event, we all of a sudden have an idea, or feel an emotion towards another person?"

Not sure what you mean here, do you mean reaction to a human action or though, I mean every idea comes from curiosity and the curiosity is a reaction to an event, so what do you mean?

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Re: Lafuria's Philosophy Threads: Must things have a cause?

What I mean is can someone come up with an idea, or an emotion for something out of the blue?

Example: you are walking in a street and all of a sudden an idea pops into your head, or an emotion out of nothing. Can no direct event lead to something?

If yes, can this extend to international events?

I can give you a clue: The big bang happened out of nothing. There is no presumed trigger that caused it to happen and create life.

Does this extend to other things?

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Its spontaneous, stuff appearing from nowhere into your mind maybe due to triggers such as a memory. Try reading up on the spontaneous order.
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What I mean is can someone come up with an idea, or an emotion for something out of the blue?

Example: you are walking in a street and all of a sudden an idea pops into your head, or an emotion out of nothing. Can no direct event lead to something?

If yes, can this extend to international events?

I can give you a clue: The big bang happened out of nothing. There is no presumed trigger that caused it to happen and create life.

Does this extend to other things?
Idea yes, it can just pop up, emotion I dont think so, it has to be a reaction to something...

And the big bang was actually a direct reactions, it just didnt happen out of the blue...

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And the big bang was actually a direct reactions, it just didnt happen out of the blue...
The genius just keeps oozing out of you doesn't it?

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The genius just keeps oozing out of you doesn't it?
:retard: :retard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang,

lol, what is your explanation then, haha...

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Re: Lafuria's Philosophy Threads: Must things have a cause?

There may be a procees that lead up to the Big Bang, but where these things came from and how, is still a mystery...

At some point however, IF the Big Bang theory is correct, something came out of nothing.

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There may be a procees that lead up to the Big Bang, but where these things came from and how, is still a mystery...

At some point however, IF the Big Bang theory is correct, something came out of nothing.
something can't come from nothing - read something on the laws of physics. dumbass :retard:
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something can't come from nothing - read something on the laws of physics. dumbass :retard:
speaking of physics, i actually managed to create energy 2 weeks ago, its a very interesting and improbable story
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speaking of physics, i actually managed to create energy 2 weeks ago, its a very interesting and improbable story
cool! i created some this morning actually - stank up the whole house. I had no idea there was that much gas inside me
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cool! i created some this morning actually - stank up the whole house. I had no idea there was that much gas inside me
i created a different kinfd of energy. i used a capacitor got an efficiency of 2000% for it
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:retard: :retard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang,

lol, what is your explanation then, haha...
The big bang was the creation of space and time, there was nothing there before. It's meaningless to talk of some "cause" because how can there be anything when there's no space or time :retard:
And anyone who's studied some quantum physics will know that many phenomena do occur spontaneously without cause

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The big bang was the creation of space and time, there was nothing there before. It's meaningless to talk of some "cause" because how can there be anything when there's no space or time :retard:
And anyone who's studied some quantum physics will know that many phenomena do occur spontaneously without cause
i've studied quantum physics. there is soo much evidence for the big bang, such as background radiation, etc.

its also a bit sad to thik of everything as deterministic.
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The big bang was the creation of space and time, there was nothing there before. It's meaningless to talk of some "cause" because how can there be anything when there's no space or time :retard:
And anyone who's studied some quantum physics will know that many phenomena do occur spontaneously without cause
the explosion was a reaction, read the theory...

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