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UK: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims

hahahaha, no one can say Europe culturally and morally is not dying, this news is as retarded and eye opening as it gets... and tragic...

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Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Government backed study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

The findings have prompted claims that some schools are using history 'as a vehicle for promoting political correctness'.

The study, funded by the Department for Education and Skills, looked into 'emotive and controversial' history teaching in primary and secondary schools.

It found some teachers are dropping courses covering the Holocaust at the earliest opportunity over fears Muslim pupils might express anti-Semitic and anti-Israel reactions in class.


The researchers gave the example of a secondary school in an unnamed northern city, which dropped the Holocaust as a subject for GCSE coursework.

The report said teachers feared confronting 'anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils'.

It added: "In another department, the Holocaust was taught despite anti-Semitic sentiment among some pupils.

"But the same department deliberately avoided teaching the Crusades at Key Stage 3 (11- to 14-year-olds) because their balanced treatment of the topic would have challenged what was taught in some local mosques."

A third school found itself 'strongly challenged by some Christian parents for their treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict-and the history of the state of Israel that did not accord with the teachings of their denomination'.

The report concluded: "In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship."

But Chris McGovern, history education adviser to the former Tory government, said: "History is not a vehicle for promoting political correctness. Children must have access to knowledge of these controversial subjects, whether palatable or unpalatable."

The researchers also warned that a lack of subject knowledge among teachers - particularly at primary level - was leading to history being taught in a 'shallow way leading to routine and superficial learning'.

Lessons in difficult topics were too often 'bland, simplistic and unproblematic' and bored pupils.
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Please, please tell me this is an April Fools' joke.

Next year they will be teaching that Germany won the war!

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On second reading it is not as bad as I thought. At first I thought that schools were being told by the gov. to drop mention of the Holocaust. But really, it seems it is the action of individual teachers. They should be fired, but unfortunately Britain now lacks a statesman/woman of the greatness of Thatcher.

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On second reading it is not as bad as I thought. At first I thought that schools were being told by the gov. to drop mention of the Holocaust. But really, it seems it is the action of individual teachers. They should be fired, but unfortunately Britain now lacks a statesman/woman of the greatness of Thatcher.
Yeah, I didnt try to make it sound as if it was an official position, but the fact that some schools and teachers are doing it is already insane...

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Things like that have been happening now for years in the U.K. and France and other European countries nothing new.

The only difference is it is finally gaining some exposure however you still have your fair share of apologists who will continue to try and keep things like that under wraps and convince everyone that everything is just hunky dory
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That's bull crap! We shouldn't select parts of history that are to be taught and those that shouldn't simply because it offends some people. History should be taught as a whole. I would expect the Germans to teach their students what a bunch of assholes they were in the 1930-1945 period. People need to learn from these mistakes.

I think we make a big deal of offending people when saying some things. The truth must always be said no matter if it puts you in bad light.

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hahahaha, no one can say Europe culturally and morally is not dying, this news is as retarded and eye opening as it gets... and tragic...


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As I have said many times the german story is just one in many many stories, the UK is in worst shape than most other countries in Europe, I guess there is a reason why London is referred as Londonistan, hahaha...

You know, when you write something in this forum I want to vomite after reading it. You and this kapranos are living proofs, that abortion should be forced in some states.
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You know, when you write something in this forum I want to vomite after reading it. You and this kapranos are living proofs, that abortion should be forced in some states.
Might as well add you to that list

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Might as well add you to that list
And you too, you idiot.
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The same kind of denial mentality seems to have infiltrated the BBC. I went to their website today, expecting the Iranian hostage crisis would naturally be the front page news item. But any mention of this is hidden and you have to search for it in other pages. Shame

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And you too, you idiot.
I have met people who have told me they felt their lives had a meaning ever since they came to know me. I doubt the same has ever happened to you, especially on this forum. You are like the darkness that brings despair, hatred, dumbness, immaturity & tragedy whereas I am the the light that brings idealism, common sense, love and fun.

And yet you have the nerve to tell me that I am with you on the list of people who should have been aborted

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The same kind of denial mentality seems to have infiltrated the BBC. I went to their website today, expecting the Iranian hostage crisis would naturally be the front page news item. But any mention of this is hidden and you have to search for it in other pages. Shame
What should they write or say in your opinion? That some Bristish troops invaded territory of Iran? It was given today in some Polish news. Some informations should be not given to the press, because it can cause social dissatisfaction. And what for?
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I have met people who have told me they felt their lives had a meaning ever since they came to know me. I doubt the same has ever happened to you, especially on this forum. You are like the darkness that brings despair, hatred, dumbness, immaturity & tragedy whereas I am the the light that brings idealism, common sense, love and fun.

And yet you have the nerve that I am with you on the list of people who should have been aborted
You must read it and think over, what is your idea in these bs, you have written. I don't want to know you ever. It is very sorry to know such people, as you are.
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Things like that have been happening now for years in the U.K. and France and other European countries nothing new.

The only difference is it is finally gaining some exposure however you still have your fair share of apologists who will continue to try and keep things like that under wraps and convince everyone that everything is just hunky dory
My grandfather was among the American soldiers that "liberated" one of the concentration camps. It still haunted him 50 years later. We still don't know which camp because he would never talk about it.

To eliminate this from European history is nothing short of a crime. There is a VERY good reason that the Polish government allowed Birkenau to stay standing...because we can never allow people to forget what happened; what CAN happen.

It still gets me all churned up. And to eliminate it because a group of people doesn't believe it happened? Its complete bullshit. Shame on England for even allowing it.
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I have met people who have told me they felt their lives had a meaning ever since they came to know me.
But that is just because you made them realise that they are not at the bottom of the heap.

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