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The death of Europe

German judge under fire for using Koran to deny divorce

Mar 22, 2007, 12:47 GMT


Berlin - A German judge has come under fire for her refusal to grant a divorce to a Muslim woman beaten by her husband on the grounds that marital violence is condoned by the Koran.

Politicians, Muslims and legal experts have criticized the judge's remarks, which came in a letter denying the 26-year-old mother-of-two a fast-track divorce from her Moroccan husband.

The woman, a German of Moroccan descent, was living apart from her violent husband when she sought a divorce before the end of the usual one-year legal separation period because of continued threats made by the man against her.

After the husband contested the divorce, the judge at the Frankfurt Family Court turned down the woman's application, noting that the couple grew up with the Moroccan culture.

'In these cultural circles it is not uncommon for the husband to make use of his right of corporal punishment against his wife,' she wrote. 'The German-born applicant must have realized this when she married the Moroccan-born' man.

'The ruling sends a terrible signal to Muslim women,' said Kristina Koehler, an expert on Islam and a member of parliament for Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat-Christian Social Union alliance.

Calling it 'unacceptable and abhorrent' for women to be told by a German court of an Islamic right to corporal punishment, she said the judge should have followed German civil law and not Islamic teaching.

'It is unbelievable that a German judge should give such a ruling, said Turkish-born German sociologist Necla Kelek. 'The law should be applied the same way to everyone, regardless of whether they are Muslim or Christian.'

Green Party politician Hans-Christian Stroebele said a judge in Germany was obliged to follow German laws and legal rulings. 'Violence and threatening behaviour against another person is a criminal offence in Germany, and rightly so,' Stroebele said.

Following disclosure of the judge's remarks, she was removed from the case and it was taken over by another judge.

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haha, it might seem like exaggeration, but stories like this keep popping up all over Europe, especially in the UK(you actually had a city or county ban images of pigs from the workplace because it was offensive to muslims :retard: :retard: )

To tell you the truth I am not suprised by stories like these anymore, as ridiculous as they are, we will see more of this, much more in the coming years... That is the evils of multiculturalism....

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What a stupid topic again. Are you really mad?
It is known, that men hammer wifes all over the world and especially in US and UK.
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What a stupid topic again. Are you really mad?
It is known, that men hammer wifes all over the world and especially in US and UK.
so it makes it right? besides you go to jail if you do that in the US... lol I dont think you understood the story...

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What a stupid topic again. Are you really mad?
It is known, that men hammer wifes all over the world and especially in US and UK.
mtw, you dickhead, you never understand anything...


by the way, i find it pathetic a judge uses Coranic law in aneuropean country
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What a stupid topic again. Are you really mad?
It is known, that men hammer wifes all over the world and especially in US and UK.
But never in Poland I guess I usually try not to rise to the bait with you mtw - just count to 10 and move on, - but that is one of the most ridiculous, biased, racist comments I have ever heard. Your hatred against the US and the UK is just :retard: And - please tell me - if the UK is really so bad - why are thousands of Polish people coming over here to live and work since Poland joned the EU! And - no - I am not anti-Polish - I work with a couple of Polish girls, and they are really great people, and very hard workers, and good luck to them if they want to move here - but sometimes your totally stupid comments make me mad!!!!

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But never in Poland I guess I usually try not to rise to the bait with you mtw - just count to 10 and move on, - but that is one of the most ridiculous, biased, racist comments I have ever heard. Your hatred against the US and the UK is just :retard: And - please tell me - if the UK is really so bad - why are thousands of Polish people coming over here to live and work since Poland joned the EU! And - no - I am not anti-Polish - I work with a couple of Polish girls, and they are really great people, and very hard workers, and good luck to them if they want to move here - but sometimes your totally stupid comments make me mad!!!!
well said.
As for the woman she should be suspended for what she did. If she had done it by the bible she would have been so a long time ago. Germany is a secular nation.

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But never in Poland I guess I usually try not to rise to the bait with you mtw - just count to 10 and move on, - but that is one of the most ridiculous, biased, racist comments I have ever heard. Your hatred against the US and the UK is just :retard: And - please tell me - if the UK is really so bad - why are thousands of Polish people coming over here to live and work since Poland joned the EU! And - no - I am not anti-Polish - I work with a couple of Polish girls, and they are really great people, and very hard workers, and good luck to them if they want to move here - but sometimes your totally stupid comments make me mad!!!!
With girls? Where do you work with these girls exactly? In escort agency?
Tousends of people from Poland go to UK not, because of love to England, but because of lack of the perspectives in own state.

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mtw, you dickhead, you never understand anything...


by the way, i find it pathetic a judge uses Coranic law in aneuropean country
You understand nothing, you idiot.
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well said.
As for the woman she should be suspended for what she did. If she had done it by the bible she would have been so a long time ago. Germany is a secular nation.
There are many Christians there: most of all - Protestants.
Say something about your nation.
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so it makes it right? besides you go to jail if you do that in the US... lol I dont think you understood the story...
There are many TV series on Discovery for instance: Forensic Medicine. They show, what American men make with their wives. They do that. And what, that a crime is discovered after 10 or 20 years? It gives nothing. The mentality of some men is just so. They are very aggressive and they can be harmful for weaker persons: not only for woman, for children too.

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There are many Christians there: most of all - Protestants.
Say something about your nation.
No kidding. Germany is a Christian country yes I know that but what I am saying is that in the west it is easier to deal with your own kind then with minorities. My nation(s) is India and Switzerland. The sharia is used for muslims to a certain extent. As long as Indian values prevail I don't care too much. India has not collapsed like Soviet union, Yugoslavia etc...despite its diversity. The last break up was in 1947 and there won't be anymore breakup of the country. (at least nt in my lifetime)

In Switzerland, any judge who would do what that idiot did would be booted out so I am very happy with our system.

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There are many TV series on Discovery for instance: Forensic Medicine. They show, what American men make with their wives. They do that. And what, that a crime is discovered after 10 or 20 years? It gives nothing. The mentality of some men is just so. They are very aggressive and they can be harmful for weaker persons: not only for woman, for children too.
has anyone outside the US seen that Discovery Forensic medicine show, I now am back to thinking that mtw is just pulling a big joke on us? lol..

Why is it relevant to this story that some men hit their wife in the US, i still think you dont get the first post,lol...

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With girls? Where do you work with these girls exactly? In escort agency?
Tousends of people from Poland go to UK not, because of love to England, but because of lack of the perspectives in own state.
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With girls? Where do you work with these girls exactly? In escort agency?
Tousends of people from Poland go to UK not, because of love to England, but because of lack of the perspectives in own state.
No, Rosie is not in the same business as you. I think you hate the US because American guys don't leave good tips for you.

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