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A bleak picture of a generation of young British Muslims radicalised by anti-Western views and misplaced multicultural policies is shown in a survey published today.

The study found disturbing evidence of young Muslims adopting more fundamentalist beliefs on key social and political issues than their parents or grandparents.


The study found disturbing evidence of young Muslims adopting more fundamentalist beliefs on key social and political issues
Forty per cent of Muslims between the ages of 16 and 24 said they would prefer to live under sharia law in Britain, a legal system based on the teachings of the Koran. The figure among over-55s, in contrast, was only 17 per cent.

In some countries, people found guilty under sharia law face penalties such as beheading, stoning, the severing of a hand or being lashed.

The study, by the Right-wing think-tank Policy Exchange, also found a significant minority who expressed backing for Islamic terrorism.

One in eight young Muslims said they admired groups such as al-Qa'eda that "are prepared to fight the West".

advertisementTurning to issues of faith, 36 per cent of the young people questioned said they believed that a Muslim who converts to another religion should be "punished by death." Among the over 55s, the figure is only 19 per cent.

Three out of four young Muslims would prefer Muslim women to "choose to wear the veil or hijab," compared to only a quarter of over-55s.

Support was also strong for Islamic schools, according to the Populus survey of 1,000 people commissioned by Policy Exchange.

Forty per cent of younger Muslims said they would want their children to attend an Islamic school, compared to only 20 per cent of over-55s.

Britain's foreign policies were a key issue among the Muslim population as a whole, with 58 per cent arguing that many of the world's problems are "a result of arrogant Western attitudes". However, knowledge of foreign affairs was sketchy, with only one in five knowing that Mahmoud Abbas was the Palestinian president.

The findings emerged as David Cameron, the Conservative leader, criticised the Government for trying to "bully" immigrant communities into feeling British by telling them to run up the Union flag in their gardens or spy on their children.

But in a speech today, Mr Cameron will warn the Muslim community that it cannot use the "screen of cultural sensitivity" to deny women their rights.

The Policy Exchange report, Living Together Apart: British Muslims and the Paradox of Multiculturalism — says there is strong evidence of a "growing religiosity" among young Muslims, with an increasing minority firmly rejecting Western life.

Munira Mirza, the broadcaster and one of the authors of the report, argued that multicultural policies pursued by the Government had succeeded in making things worse, rather than better.

She said: "The emergence of a strong Muslim identity in Britain is, in part, a result of multi-cultural policies implemented since the 1980s which have emphasised difference at the expense of shared national identity and divided people along ethnic, religious and cultural lines.

"There is clearly a conflict within British Islam between a moderate majority that accepts the norms of British democracy and a growing minority that does not."

The report also raises questions about the scale of the problems created by Islamophobia, with 84 per cent of those questioned saying they believed they had been "treated fairly" in Britain.

There was also criticism of the decision by some councils to ban Christian symbols in case they offended Muslims or other communities.

Three quarters said it was wrong for a council to have banned an advert for a Christmas carol service.

Shahid Malik, the Muslim Labour MP for Dewsbury, said: "This report makes very disturbing reading and it vindicates the concern many of us have that we're not doing enough to confront this issue."

Baroness Uddin, the Muslim peer, said: "Unlike their parents, our young people feel that this is their country and are saying why are we being told we do not belong here.

"There is also a problem of a lack of opportunities. Some people have been brutalised by their experiences with the police and this war on terror."

In his speech in Birmingham today, Mr Cameron will criticise "simplistic" attempts at community cohesion, such as Gordon Brown's call for people to put up the Union flag.

But he will also challenge elements of the Muslim community for denying women access to work, education, politics and even to mosques.

In a move that will please the Tory Right, Mr Cameron will warn that urgent action must be taken to get a grip of an immigration system that is out of control.

"It's the same whether it's the white grandmother worried about groups of asylum seekers or an unemployed Sikh youngster who sees eastern Europeans filling all the jobs.

"The Government needs to be in control of the situation. We can only live together if there is proper integration.

"And you can't have proper integration if people are coming into Britain at a faster rate than we can cope with."
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We need to start fighting Evil before it's too lated.
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One in eight young Muslims said they admired groups such as al-Qa'eda that "are prepared to fight the West".

Turning to issues of faith, 36 per cent of the young people questioned said they believed that a Muslim who converts to another religion should be "punished by death."
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I think the main problem that lies within the Muslim community is the lack of integration especially in Europe. In the US there is more integration as a whole and you would never hear about 2nd or 3rd generation Muslims not speaking English like you would in some other countries because in the US if you are born here you are American simple as that.

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I don't get this:We live in their Country but we would like to live under the rules of Islam and be allowed to behead those who headbutt others, cut of the hands of wankers, stone to death women who cheat on their husbands and of course the rapists will have their members cut away. The British authorities should have a problem with this, since we would be providing quite a gore spectacle in their streets

The U.K. isn't fully Islamic and I am not sure the population will find it pleasant living with people who practise the Sharia Law. What these youngsters forget is that their Parents came to the West running away from the conditions under the Sharia Law so that 20 years later their children would decide to go back to living under the Sharia Law.

I got nothing against Islam but it's just this is an Idea doomed from the word go. Actually, Religions are the cause of most of our troubles on this planet. When you consider it, how many wars would have never taken place if Religions didn't exist?

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Actually, Religions are the cause of most of our troubles on this planet. When you consider it, how many wars would have never taken place if Religions didn't exist?
I agree about religions, but I'm afraid there would always be a reason for fighting even if there were no religions...
It's something about the world's way of not getting overpopulated....

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The study, by the Right-wing think-tank Policy Exchange, also found a significant minority who expressed backing for Islamic terrorism.
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I got nothing against Islam but it's just this is an Idea doomed from the word go. Actually, Religions are the cause of most of our troubles on this planet. When you consider it, how many wars would have never taken place if Religions didn't exist?
Religions in and of themselves do not start wars- people do.

If not for the religions as we know them humans would have found some alternative dogmatic approaches to get people riled up and kill other people- it's basic human nature.
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Actually, Religions are the cause of most of our troubles on this planet. When you consider it, how many wars would have never taken place if Religions didn't exist?
I don't agree.
Whils religion may not help matters, wars are generally fought for territory, power and money....in short for reasons of greed. Religion is often used to justify this, admittedly.
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I agree about religions, but I'm afraid there would always be a reason for fighting even if there were no religions...
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Well look at it this way- the 20th century has seen some of the most horrific gruesome wars in the history of mankind due to the improved technology, yet at the same time it has also seen the biggest increase in worldwide population too.
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Religions are bad anyway, and the current version of Islam is probably the worst.

It used to be the religion of the enlightened, what has it become...

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Well look at it this way- the 20th century has seen some of the most horrific gruesome wars in the history of mankind due to the improved technology, yet at the same time it has also seen the biggest increase in worldwide population too.
China and India were not involved in the two world wars, although the Chinese had their fair share of suffer at the hands of the Japanese...

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It's in human's nature to fight but of late, most of the fighting is over Religion and resources. "you have petrol but i don't like your religion so I am coming to take over" or " I hate your religion so there is no way you can even start thinking about nuclear power" etc. You are quite right, take away man's problems, man will always create new ones.

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It's in human's nature to fight but of late, most of the fighting is over Religion and resources. "you have petrol but i don't like your religion so I am coming to take over" or " I hate your religion so there is no way you can even start thinking about nuclear power" etc. You are quite right, take away man's problems, man will always create new ones.
Well, before it was about political beliefs and economical philosophies.

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It's a sport after all and while it is very important for the players, the only reason they make money (and I mean tennis as a whole) it's because it's entertainment for us, the fans. So if we're watching, I rather watch something that pleases the eye, who gives a shit if a BOSS hotass model takes 5 more seconds in geting the ball to the player in Madrid? I'd rather wait those extra 5 seconds seeing those boobies bounce than watching some fatass kid burn away his bigmac meal.

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The problem of Europe is multiculturalism. Now, it's fashionable to defend the right of Muslims to live in Europe according to the same values they lived in their countries, no matter what those values are.

However, some of these values clearly contradict basic human rights, as interpreted by the European Court of Human Right. In fact, the contradiction between the Charia and the European Charter of Human Rights was expressly recognized by the European Court. The European Court especially emphasized these contradictions in the area of women rights and criminal law. That's why, the Court stated that it did not entail a violation of the European Charter of Human Rights the ban of a islamic political pary in Turkey which wanted to implement the Charia.

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