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Don't you love how anything can be considered a sport nowadays. Fist golf, then Poker now Gaming. I was just watching a commercial for the international gaming championship and o.k, it's entertaining to some extend, and sure video games can be fun. And I'm not even knocking the competition or making money from playing it. If you can make money and a career from playing cards then why not. So when I heard the commercial call the game a sport I was like o.k. If I can accept people considering golf a sport then I can take gaming being called a sport. But it tipped the scale when at the end of the commercial they actually called the gammers athletes. WHAT! athletes what part of them would be a athlete exactly, there' fingers. give me a break, I had to turn, it annoyed me, but whatever.
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Yeah i sort of have a problem with people doing something that would never cause them to even break a sweat (other than by pressure) and calling it a sport, like golf or car racing or poker.

call it what it is "games" not to say it does not take talent or aptitude...you're just not athletes at all
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Yeah i sort of have a problem with people doing something that would never cause them to even break a sweat (other than by pressure) and calling it a sport, like golf or car racing or poker.

call it what it is "games" not to say it does not take talent or aptitude...you're just not athletes at all

Most car racers lose 20-25 pounds a race from all the sweat. It takes immense strength and force to turn a steering wheel at 200+ miles per hour and a lot of race car drivers have to workout.
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but does that make them athletes?
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Yes it does. Racing car drivers are one of the fittest athletes around.

And what's this bullshit about not calling golf a sport? Golf is a sport.

Here is a little something I compiled a few years back.

Golf uses at least 4 components of fitness which are needed to make a champion. Firstly, you need aerobic fitness to maintain adequate health levels and to reduce fatigue over long tournaments and busy playing schedules, while strength, power and flexibility are important to adequately perform the golfing stroke.

Strength needs to be developed. The strengthening program for golf should include work for the trunk, as well as for the muscles of the upper and lower body. Because the golf swing is not a simple, linear motion, you should implement an integrated, multijoint strengthening program. Your hips and legs produce most of the force for a powerful golf swing. This momentum must be transferred through a stable trunk to the upper body, which simultaneously delivers and counteracts the forceful striking action of the club. A successful swing, therefore, requires sufficient strength and coordinated actions among the major muscles that make up these different body segments. Of course, strong muscles also are essential for proper posture, which assures consistent swing deliveries and a stable head that maintains uninterrupted eye focus on the golf ball.

Postural balance is an important component of a golf game. Unfortunately, physical activities such as golf, in which one side of the body is used differently than the other side of the body, tend to promote postural imbalances that can impede performance and cause injury. It is important to determine whether the postural imbalance is a normal response to sport mechanics, however, or whether it is due to pathological conditions. A solid golf conditioning program strives for front to back and left to right body balance. Although this may never be fully achieved because of the sport mechanics, it always should remain a primary goal of your golf conditioning program.

Balance represents a complex neuromuscular communication system. It relies on feedback from the central nervous system, the eyes, the inner ear, and tiny message receptors in the joints and soft tissues. Balance is necessary in maintaining appropriate spine (trunk and torso) positions throughout the swing. If balance is not maintained during the swinging action, shoulder turn, weight shift, and force transfer may be affected and the shot outcome will be compromised. As people grow older, the fact of life, the sensory organs and balance systems become less sensitive. It therefore might be advantageous to actually make better postural balance one of the primary parts of a conditioning program

Flexibility is important, controlling the amount of flexibility that's available to you is even more important. Swinging within the limitations of your body may be the most important advice you can ever take. While flexibility is essential, it can be a liability if not used to your advantage in proper swing mechanics. Flexibility is defined as one's available range of motion about a specific joint. The range of motion can be limited by factors such as nervous system voluntary and reflex control, muscle constraints, joint constraints, or skin and subcutaneous tissue. Flexibility might be one of the most important components of the successful golf swing because it increases the movement distance for force application. Studies have demonstrated that greater amounts of force can be produced when a muscle is prestretched before performing the activity demanded of it. When a muscle is prestretched, it creates elastic recoil that applies additional force for a more powerful contraction. This procedure is known as preloading the muscle.

Golf is a power sport. The golfer must be able to generate near-maximum power a certain number of times through the round. Regardless of a player's talent level, however, the most effective and powerful swings are produced when the force-generating muscles are preloaded first.

In conclusion, I put my case to rest that golf needs a certain amount of fitness and uses at least 4 components of fitness to be able to maintain a good golf game. If you don't have these components then you won't succeed as a golfer. There may be some golfers that are overweight on the tour. When people see someone who may be considered overweight, they dismiss that they are fit. Well that is wrong. They are fit. Overweight people can be fit and these golfers are fit. Just because you see someone that may be considered overweight, it doesn't mean that they're not fit. It's a myth people believe that overweight people aren't fit. That myth is wrong. It also helps them develop more force through the body thus a more powerful swing. With all these facts considered, golf is a sport and a proper one too because it requires so many components.
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wow, how much bs did people have to compile together to make golf look like you actually have to do something to swing a stick at a ball that's not moving. No I'm being an ass, I'm long over arguing people down about whether golf is a sport or not. Nobody is convincing me of that, but whatever
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wow, how much bs did people have to compile together to make golf look like you actually have to do something to swing a stick at a ball that's not moving. No I'm being an ass, I'm long over arguing people down about whether golf is a sport or not. Nobody is convincing me of that, but whatever
Well no offence, but you have no idea about sport or what makes a sport or the important physical factors that go into physical fitness.
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Can we all agree on Poker players?
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Well no offence, but you have no idea about sport or what makes a sport or the important physical factors that go into physical fitness.
apparently not, because I sure as hell aint' seeing it in golf, no offense
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Most car racers lose 20-25 pounds a race from all the sweat. It takes immense strength and force to turn a steering wheel at 200+ miles per hour and a lot of race car drivers have to workout.

Not to mention they could run a marathon and probably win Olympic gold.
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Can we all agree on Poker players?
No I'm sure someone will come out with a long just report on how much physical and mental exertion cards players requires as well. and I welcome it, oh am i waiting patiently on the gamers report.
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apparently not, because I sure as hell aint' seeing it in golf, no offense
Read my little snippet that I wrote. If you don't think golf is a sport after reading that, you not only show your lack of intelligence but you also show you don't know anything about fitness/sport and you also need your brain examined.
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apparently not, because I sure as hell aint' seeing it in golf, no offense
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Well no offence, but you have no idea about sport or what makes a sport or the important physical factors that go into physical fitness.
No but seriously, I have always had a problem with seeing any game as a sport where you're allowed to be a complete fat-ass and still manage to win. but now that tiger decided to hit the gym because he has his hot scandanavian wife he wanted to get in shape for, I think people actually think that the job requires it, it doesn't.
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Not to mention they could run a marathon and probably win Olympic gold.
Yeah i highly doubt that...beside the fact that they don't train for that.

Don't forget no one on MTF can agree on a damn thing.
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Read my little snippet that I wrote. If you don't think golf is a sport after reading that, you not only show your lack of intelligence but you also show you don't know anything about fitness/sport and you also need your brain examined.
Right because throwing that swing back requires sooo much physical prowess. No, I believe you, just didn't feel it when I played. But I guess that's because I'm playing for fun, I guess I need to play on the same high level as tiger. Then maybe I'd understand
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