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So what do you think of Che Guevara?




I literally had no idea who this man before today. I just googled Fidel Castro just because I was bored and then I noticed this man among the pics and I remembered that I saw his face on many shirts. Like even when I was 10 in school I remember I saw people wear his t-shirts. Back then I thought he was a singer or some kind of a celebrity. His shirts were quite popular. I had no idea what his name was tho. I was a bit curious about who he is but I guess I didn't care enough to find out. His t-shirts looked pretty cool tho I must say. I have watched some short clips on him. According to the comments on youtube, he is either satan himself or a some kind of a hero. Was his intentions good or bad?

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you make some weird and interesting threads at times. I'm too young to really know much detail, so really in the same boat when it comes to history.

Maybe @Litotes can enlighten us more.
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Re: So what do you think of Che Guevara?

He is a hero. Brutally murdered by right wing thugs helped by US intelligence.

Watch the following movie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mo...Diaries_(film)

An interesting story about his early youth, before everything. Gives you some insight about who he was and why he become who he is.
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Ban OP lock the thread. How someone can be so illiterate at the age of 18+. Also joined by a mod afterwards lol

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Australian high school history only tends to cover the Vietnam and Afghan War. Not so much American history. I guess we all could learn something. Incidentally the guy is familiar to me through playing video games like CoD
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Ernesto "Che" Guevara was an Argentine born Latin American revolutionary fighter and poet. He fought in Guatemala against the CIA-backed coup, he fought on Cuba on Castro's side during the 1958 revolution and got an important place in Castro's government. From Cuba he was involved in several other Latin American countries, like Panama and the Dominican Republic, on the revolutionary side. He regarded Latin America as a whole rather than as many different countries. He left Cuba after a few years to involve himself more directly in other countries' struggles. In 1967 he was captured by US special forces in Bolivia and executed.

A great symbol for the Latin American left.
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Mercenary , bloodthirsty murderer, “a cold killing machine”

ruthless dogmatic ideologue

a homophobe , probably a rapist too

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He was very popular after the Cuban revolution. His main job was sentencing people to death in El Morro.
Fidel could not stand it that anyone else could be in the limelight. So he sent Che off to Africa to revolutionize the continent, fully expecting him to die in the jungle. But when Che discovered that all the African revolutionary leaders that he was going to hook up with were living in Paris, he came back to Cuba.
Fidel then sent him to Bolivia to die in the jungle. This time it worked.

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He was very popular after the Cuban revolution. His main job was sentencing people to death in El Morro.
Fidel could not stand it that anyone else could be in the limelight. So he sent Che off to Africa to revolutionize the continent, fully expecting him to die in the jungle. But when Che discovered that all the African revolutionary leaders that he was going to hook up with were living in Paris, he came back to Cuba.
Fidel then sent him to Bolivia to die in the jungle. This time it worked.
In a twisted world of buddyholly it is actually Fidel Castro who is guilty of Che Guevara murder, not the actual perpetrators - i.e. CIA and Bolivian right wing extremist regime.

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In a twisted world of buddyholly it is actually Fidel Castro who is guilty of Che Guevara murder, not the actual perpetrators - i.e. CIA and Bolivian right wing extremist regime.
It is not my world, it is the world of Cuban street knowledge.
What I DID say was that during my years in Cuba many things were put in a Cuban perspective for me. And one of those was that Fidel got Che off the island because he wanted all the glory. That was his way.
Just think about it. A handful of guerrillas landing in an African jungle with a mission to conquer the continent.
Read the bit in Wikipedia about Che leaving a letter with Fidel that would be made public after his death, in which he severed all ties with Cuba and devoted himself to world revolution. Fidel made the letter public while Che was in Africa, thus making it impossible for Che to return to Cuba. Why would Fidel release that letter prematurely?
And so on to Bolivia.......

Camilo Cienfuegos was the third hero of the revolution. Fidel sent a small plane to bring him from Eastern Cuba to Havana. The plane never arrived. And never was found..........
Admittedly, the disappearance is still a mystery, but many Cubans are willing to offer an opinion on what might have happened to the plane.
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In a twisted world of buddyholly it is actually Fidel Castro who is guilty of Che Guevara murder, not the actual perpetrators - i.e. CIA and Bolivian right wing extremist regime.
Don't forget Klaus Barbie . Castro certainly (indirectly) handed him over to them, in addition to what buddyholly said he also promised to send supplies to Bolivia that never arrived.

Guevara is a much more admirable figure than Castro, perhaps in part because he was 'lucky' enough to die young and never rule. Where Castro really was a psychopathic thug who wanted revolution without having a real plan behind it, Guevara was the romantic warrior-poet and a true Marxist intellectual. He was the great paradox, humanity in all its contradicting facets. Preaching justice while at the same time unapologetically executing people because ''revolutionaries don't need judicial evidence, they convict out of revolutionary belief!''

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Mercenary , bloodthirsty murderer, “a cold killing machine”

ruthless dogmatic ideologue

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A revolutionary and juggler who was for setting the whole undevelopped world into communist fire: it worked in some countries, and in some it didn't. He died a deserved death, though some wished it would have been more painful (in revenge to those crimes he committed).

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