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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-03-2004, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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Why is Middle America so puritan?

in the meantime, sex related websites account for more than half of the Web revenue, probably in great part fueled by some of the same adults who are now claiming indecency...

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Accidental fumble or planned foul? Publicity touchdown or illegal use of celebrity hands?

A day after the dust settled on Super Bowl XXXVIII, a firestorm ignited around the XXX Half-Time Show. The concert ended with Justin Timberlake ripping off Janet Jackson's leather bodice, exposing her bejewelled right breast to about 100 million viewers.

Forget "The Miracle On Ice" and "The Shot Heard Around The World." Sunday's football game — there was a game, right? — will enter American sports lore as The Nipple Miraculously Seen Across The Planet.

U.S. networks scrambled yesterday to "inform" viewers who may have blinked and missed the peek-a-boob show. On CNN and MSNBC, the incident — described as "shocking," "scandalous" and "unbelievable" — was treated like a shocking, scandalous and unbelievable game play.

Start the clip: There's Justin, following Janet around the stage, lip-synching his way through "Rock Your Body," clutching his mike with a menacing expression of pre-coital intent.

There's Janet, gyrating her hips, puckering her lips, lasciviously zigging her way through late-'80s dance moves. And, wait, now put it in slow-motion, there's Justin creeping his left hand up Janet's torso and yanking on her bustier with the zeal of a skydiver pulling a ripcord.

The televised incident happened so fast even a gifted police sketch artist would have found it impossible to render Jackson's areola based on eyewitness testimony. No matter.

The switchboard at CBS' New York headquarters lit up like a Christmas tree. Execs at both CBS and MTV, the youth-and-sex obsessed network that produced the half-time show, issued public apologies.

NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue released a statement saying the league was "extremely disappointed" and that "the show was offensive, inappropriate and embarrassing to us and our fans."

Timberlake, who made similar headlines last year after squeezing Kylie Minogue's backside during a British awards show, apologized to everybody and blamed the flash on a "wardrobe malfunction," a zany euphemism now headed for the popular lexicon.

U.S. President George W. Bush, who in a pre-game interview said he planned to watch the Super Bowl with family and friends, bowed out of the Nipple Controversy.

"I don't want to admit it, but because this White House starts early, I missed it — again," Bush told reporters. "Saw the first half, did not see the half time — I was preparing for the day and fell asleep." Right. Other high-ranking Americans were not as disingenuous or diplomatic.

Michael Powell, the chairman of the FCC, blasted MTV and CBS, both owned by Viacom, and said the federal regulator would launch a swift and immediate investigation. He called the incident, "a classless, crass and deplorable stunt."

All this shock and horror and moral outrage were tough to understand. Does Powell not watch American television? Sex is everywhere. Sex sells. Especially in the music business — whether it's Lil Kim exposing her breast on the red carpet, or Britney French-kissing Madonna, or Nelly imploring young women to take off all their clothes.

And the Super Bowl, the most watched television event of the year, symbolizes the nexus between commerce and spectacle. For $19.99, viewers could have even purchased a half-time package that included the Lingerie Bowl, a tackle-football game between two teams of scantily clad female models.

There were commercials Sunday night featuring lesbian kisses, farting horses, and spots for erection-enhancing drugs. (Paraphrase of a tagline warning: "An erection that lasts more than 4 hours is not normal and you should seek immediate medical attention.")

Daddy, what's an erection?

I doubt that anybody under the age of 35 was shocked by the fleeting sight of Jackson's pierced nipple.

Was this planned? Was it, ahem, a wardrobe malfunction? Doesn't matter because to an entire generation it was about as shocking as a cup of hot chocolate.

Ironically, one of the bands that played during the pre-game show was Duran Duran, a group that earned some controversy more than 20 years ago for its risqué "Girls On Film" video.

Today, that 1982 video would elicit mostly yawns from bored toddlers. And that's the interesting thing about the Nipple Controversy: Grown-ups are either wilfully blind or hopelessly naive when it comes to what the kids are watching these days.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-04-2004, 01:28 AM
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Re: Why is Middle America so puritan?

Fab article

Can't stop at the "wardrobe malfunction" part
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-04-2004, 01:45 AM
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It's not just the Gen Xers and younger whom you'd expect to be blase. I doubt that anyone from the baby boom generation was shocked by it either. They'd just assume they were having an acid flashback to some party in 1967.

I think it's hilarious that all these people are pretending to be upset. Meanwhile, the image keeps being repeated over and over.

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According to: http://www.forbes.com/markets/newswi...tr1239956.html

"The sources told Reuters that Time Warner Inc. (nyse: TWX - news - people) unit America Online may now seek a partial refund of the estimated $10 million it paid as a major Super Bowl advertiser and exclusive halftime show sponsor.

"While AOL was the sponsor of the Super Bowl Halftime Show, we did not produce it," the company said in a statement. "Like the NFL, we were surprised and disappointed with certain elements of the show."

The company said the exposure of Jackson's breast means it cannot now broadcast the halftime extravaganza on its web site for 25 million AOL members and visitors."

Lol this is so ridiculous... Why can't they still broadcast it on the website? Geez if seeing a boob is soooooooo offensive they just can censor that part, that's all.

COME ON, there are far more offensive things on american tv everyday. If they want to investigate on the incident, they should also investigate on half of what is being shown on American tv... Jerry Springer and all the violence that is being shown at every hour of the day, for example.
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Re: Why is Middle America so puritan?

It's a lot of fuss to make over one tit.
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I am sick and tired of Middle America acting if they are the only moral peoople in America. I didn't like what Janet did either, but I have gotten on with my life because breasts don't bother me seeing that I have two. This is a reigon of the country that have people who are the most racist in the world, have sex with animals, consume porn just as much as everyone else in America and have just as many housewives on prescription drugs (a la Rush Limbaugh, who just happens to be from middle American).
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Well, what I'm seeing outide the US is a lot of people who are not condemning Janet, but rather making fun of American puritanism. Quite a few things that I've seen in newspapers, on other sites, and so on make fun of the fuss that is being made about the display of someone's breast on TV for a fleeting moment. There's a humorous article about it in The Australian this morning, for example.


America is a funny place. I've said before how much I like being there and enjoying the graciousness and hospitality of its people, but it has this absurd puritan streak, and doesn't seem to understand that the rest of the developed world finds it slightly ridiculous.

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America is a funny place. I've said before how much I like being there and enjoying the graciousness and hospitality of its people, but it has this absurd puritan streak, and doesn't seem to understand that the rest of the developed world finds it slightly ridiculous.
I agree.

It is a land of contradictions, that's for sure. I love many aspects of my country, but the puritan streak has always embarassed me. It shows a total lack of perspective.
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Re: Why is Middle America so puritan?

Americans are generally disconnected socially, it is hard to interact (on a deep level) and form relationships. This makes people feel lonely and want a connection, which is fixed very well by church and religious beliefs. Another side effect of individualism is factual relativism (I am free, I am independent, therefore, I have a right to my own facts), which, of course, only helps maintain religious beliefs.
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Re: Why is Middle America so puritan?

Good to bump a thread from 2004. Is Middle America even "puritanical" in 2015? I haven't been to America so cannot comment on whether the term has any meaning beyond simple caricature. It might have some basis in reality, though, since the country was partially founded by the Puritans who were driven out of England in the 17th century.

The most ardent neo-puritans I've met are ban-happy (often student) feminists who think topless photos of glamour models are damaging to society, drunk sex is tantamount to rape, and video games cause violence. I loved listening to their weird tirades against the Twilight books/films when I was at university.
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