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Changes for ACC 2016

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#1 ·
I wanted to propose some changes for ACC that I feel are practical and also fair and even though it's early, it may give mods enough time to implement the following changes for ACC 16 -

1) If a poster withdraws from ACC, he's DONE. No other poster should be permitted to represent him. It's also unfair if said poster who represents him is also a good candidate to win ACC and hiding behind a mask shouldn't be allowed.


2) Posters who are banned shouldn't be allowed to partake in ACC. Period. So for example if a poster is banned in 2015, he shouldn't be permitted to participate in 2016. Have a seniors/legends ACC for those clowns but no need to pollute the main draw. :bigwave:

3) Most important change - Posters shouldn't get votes based on their offline activity(outside MTF). :rolleyes:Not saying that Mugcos didn't deserve ACC crown in 2014 but most of the votes he got were cause of his offline activity of stalking/threatening/racist attacks etc. So where does this end? If some poster killed someone, does it automatically make him ACC winner? That's just stupid and unfair to other participants. Not sure how this can be implemented but maybe don't count the votes that give offline reasons for choosing the poster.


Please mods give this a good read and consideration and implement these changes for ACC 2016. Thank you.

PS - I may add more if something strikes me. :wavey:
 
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#4 ·
Nice cover for the beginning of the ACC Nominations Thread :p

I disagree, mate.

If a poster was active at any point in 2016, even if currently they are banned, and they receive enough nominations, they should be in.

chico violated the rules multiple times last year, posting in the thread after having withdrawn among other violations.

Offline activity, FB hangouts, twitter, TF, youtube, wherever, ABSOLUTELY should be counted. Arseclownery does not stop at MTF
 
#6 ·
Why is this troll above mentioning me?

I withdrew and didn't participate last year and I will withdraw this year as well, since this bullying "game" is disgusting, immoral and stupid.

So this does not concern me at all.

:bigwave:
 
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#10 ·
Why is this troll above mentioning me?

I withdrew and didn't participate last year and I will withdraw this year as well, since this bullying "game" is disgusting, immoral and stupid.

So this does not concern me at all.

:bigwave:
Some people just never learn. Don't you understand this will be worse for you?



First off, I'm against withdrawals from this, always have been. But since Verticalscope forced upon us to allow people to withdraw, I could never understand how come mods allowed that chico hunt last winter (I can understand normal people, trolls, because this is kindergarten season, but mods are to protect posters from such situations).

He stayed out for several days, but he was dragged through many non-ACC threads, tagged here and in other threads, mentioned in signatures, and when he finally came here to make a post against this, people celebrated "you should be staying out, now you will get banned". Maybe I'm too old for that already but it was a disappointment in people I considered better than that (mostly our mods, but also other posters I considered mature). If someone wants to be out then let him be fucking out and not bait him everywhere and applaud to the baiters or when the bait is taken.

Give week of ban to people who should stay out, but come and bait, as much as to the baiters who tag people who have withdrawn. In this thread and in the other ones. Or carry their names in siggies. And stick to it.
That's not very coherent. So if chico had not withdrawn, you would be fine with all the trolling he would get, but otherwise (which only paints him in a worse light) you're not?

Jamvo1e's team vs Yoda's team was epic! ACC would have been very boring otherwise. It's just fun and giggles, people who take this too seriously are in the wrong.
 
#7 · (Edited)
First off, I'm against withdrawals from this, always have been. But since Verticalscope forced upon us to allow people to withdraw, I could never understand how come mods allowed that chico hunt last winter (I can understand normal people, trolls, because this is kindergarten season, but mods are to protect posters from such situations).

He stayed out for several days, but he was dragged through many non-ACC threads, tagged here and in other threads, mentioned in signatures, and when he finally came here to make a post against this, people celebrated "you should be staying out, now you will get banned". Maybe I'm too old for that already but it was a disappointment in people I considered better than that (mostly our mods, but also other posters I considered mature). If someone wants to be out then let him be fucking out and not bait him everywhere and applaud to the baiters or when the bait is taken.

Give week of ban to people who should stay out, but come and bait, as much as to the baiters who tag people who have withdrawn. In this thread and in the other ones. Or carry their names in siggies. And stick to it.
 
#16 ·
Thanks Nathaliia I appreciate the sentiment.
Anyway I withdrew last year, and will be doing the same every year.
I was trying to be nice and reasonable last year, but be assured it will be different next time, if someone tries to stop me from doing so.
 
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#9 ·
I think mods should make a special honorary competitions for activities outside the MTF, like twitter twat, facebook fraud or google+ gimp. Obviously the field should be reduced to only few selected. I don't follow MTF activities outside MTF, but Rutinos' twitter is perfect.
 
#23 ·
OK guys, I don't think we need another thread about chico, Jon Snow, or whatever name comes next (after that season 6 finale, I can take a guess). Stop cyber bullying him, he's a sensitive delicate person that doesn't like being called an arse clown because he backed out of the competition. That's just who he is and this is not high school, although I seriously don't know why he follows certain threads if he doesn't like them, but not my business to pry. So, enough about it, case closed, move on to the future.

Besides, what won last year's comp, won't win it this year, I'm sure of it. There is always something original happening during or after the USO.
 
#25 ·
I somewhat agree with Nathaliia. While withdrawals suck the owners of this forum have asked that we respect those who withdraw from ACC. We need to follow that. If you withdraw then you are done (again I like the ruling that if you pulled out of ACC you were also out of PopCon), no posting in the thread, no complain about the competition elsewhere either. If you don't want to be a part of the competition don't be a part of it, and stay away from the thread(s) about it as well. (ACC is not the only place this should apply to)

The flip side to that is that people need to respect those decisions. While I don't think there should be complete silence on the person I don't think the mention tag should be allowed, and it should all be contained in that thread, they've asked to be left alone, so leave them alone don't follow them into other threads and bring it up.
 
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#32 ·
Crap suggestions from the OP but what else is new.

The withdrawal rule is utter trash and I'll once again explain why to VS: only people who DESERVE IT will even get nominated for this - which means they've been insulting others during the past year. Now their behavior is coming back to bite them in the ass - and VS decides to give these ultraclowns a way out? It is simply ridiculous. Chico is the best example. Behaves like an offensive moron all year and then pretends like he's a gentle soul who won't stand for bullying. What a fucking joke. Unlike nathii, my sympathy for such people is nonexistent.
 
#34 · (Edited)
From the 2013 ACC Cancelled thread:

"The ACC has become an event that is against the rules of the forum, with many posters insulting and attacking other posters. As the years have gone on, the event has become more and more vulgar with increased number of bans as well as increased length of bans. Having an ACC increases the number of trolls that simply want attention from their posts and don't bring anything else to the forum."
Some of it remains true: too much insulting and attacking certain candidates and a particular fanbase as well last year.
Expecting the same for this year, though a lot of posters left, means probably fewer candidates and even less commenting on them.
Overall I don't fully understand why VS reviewed their decision and brought back the event. Yes, in 2014 it was interesting, but last year it was and (possibly) ever forward it will be a bore.
 
#35 ·
From the 2013 ACC Cancelled thread:



Some of it remains true: too much insulting and attacking certain candidates and a particular fanbase as well last year.
Expecting the same for this year, though a lot of posters left, means probably less candidates and even less commenting on them.
Overall I don't fully understand why VS reviewed their decision and brought back the event. Yes, in 2014 it was interesting, but last year it was and (possibly) ever forward it will be a bore.
to be honest I don't know if I want to run it again this year. It was the newbie moderators' pet project (alongside Popcon) but quite the chore to handle...now the nadalfans have particularly picked up their game this year though so lots of places to go ;)

However I very much doubt I'll be seeded 1 for Popcon again this year, that's for sure.
 
#36 ·
The best change ACC should make is CANCELING WITHDRAWALS. This contest is meant to determine biggest morons on the forum, but, if some of them escape like chickens, it stops to be an objective competition. Last year Lenders had to make great effort to save the competition. But we should simplify this process.
 
#40 ·
We can of course allow regular users to host ACC and PopCon, it was so in the past, and you would be the master of most rules. The withdrawal one needs to be discussed though since it was VS who canned it. Maybe we could forget it happened if the moderation steps a bit back from the hosting of competitions. Don't book it yet though, we'd have to see how to do that.
 
#48 ·
ACC is an inherently a non-tennis thing. Stuffing it in General Messages may get more people to understand what it is and may get more traffic (so to speak), but you could just sticky a message thread there instead, which will allow users who don't usually browse this section to easily end up in the main thread of this year's tournament. There's no necessary need to put the entire thing over there.

Do whatever yous want though. I won't be helping anyway.
 
#49 ·
If you ask to withdraw after being nominated, you are pretty much admitting you are a giant arse clown without people even needing to vote
 
#54 ·
there's no set criteria. In fact, you can nominate someone for fun if you like. Moderators frequently nominate other moderators. Of course the key is that the more votes someone gets, the higher the chance of a 'strong' seeding in the main draw. Similar for Popcon which is the counterpart of ACC.
 
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#59 ·
Alright, so I'll give you all a rundown of what we expect. Now this is still in some negotiation with VS as some technical input will be needed.

The proposal sounds like this:
- MTF will have a new section (which right now has the placeholder name of Mens Tennis Fanatics - MTF), where baiting, trolling, forum disruptions, mild player bashing will be allowed, a freer posting and behavior, with still some limitations, although minimal moderation. The new section will be closed to guests and won't be searchable on google (this will solve any legal problem that anyone might have over what posters say). It will also have a disclaimer for that reason, he who posts there, is on his own, fully responsible. The section will also be closed under 300 posts, and there will be no notifications spawned from it so that those who do not wish to open it, may not be dragged in it.
- At the same time as the above, MTF's main section, GM will be more severely moderated. Not too limiting, but we will make it possible for older forum members to return to posting by eliminating randomness, whilst still allowing members to have fun somewhere on the forum, although, fun in GM wouldn't be completely eliminated. We know it's far from perfect now, and that it can never be perfect, but it will be better.
- NT will not have some increase or decrease in moderation style.
- ACC will be held inside this new Fanatics section, which will allow both tennis and non-tennis discussions, as well as WTA talk. ACC may be organized by any volunteer who wishes (including mods), and will have any rule the organizer deems necessary and which do not violate stricter forum rules, including no withdrawals - VS countered us with this section offer as a compromise to allowing no withdrawals.
- Match threads, WWW threads and live commentary will still be held in GM and not allowed in Fanatics, unless titles there have a different format which eliminates confusion from the original threads in GM.

Once VS gives their confirmation on the technical solution, we will hold a public poll whether this proposal is accepted or not and gonna see what's going on next.:wink2:
 
#60 ·
This is a fantastic idea imo and it perhaps what it needs to turn MTF around. People who are unhappy with too much moderation can post in Fanatics section, people who are unhappy with too lenient moderation would post in GM and people who don't care either way(like me for example :p) can post in both sections.
@leng jai must be delighted if this happens since he's the biggest bully and butthurt No1e hater in this forum.
 
#61 ·
Anymore strict moderation in GM will completely kill the forum. Some fanbase(s) gets unfair treatment already and stricter moderation will only highlight that fact.
 
#68 ·
Perfect? Really? The main section will immediately die, since nobody is interested in discussing tennis in a place which consists of mugs, clowns and losers.
Since you two seem to be so against it, may I ask, what exactly are you afraid of? That you'll soon be needing to post away from GM? I doubt GM will die, after all, it will still contain all those nice match result threads which will instantly have posts like "Trash taken out, RAFA as close to GOD as always", "Butthurt RAFA hater tards in ruins" deleted. :wink2:

Nobody is interested in discussing tennis? Really? That's your argument? So, you aren't interested in discussing tennis? Are you interested in trolling only (please say yes)? All posters besides your glorious self and your other RAFA worshipers, are they all mugs, clowns and losers? Wow, and you wonder why you're not taken seriously or nobody gives a damn about your opinion.
 
#64 ·
If that works out as well as it should, then I have absolutely no problems with it.
 
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