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MTF Debate I: This House Would Frack, Teams Posted!

Welcome to what will hopefully be the first of many official MTF Debates: This House Would Frack

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1. The Structure to the Debate is British Parliamentary, explained here: Game idea: MTF Debating

2. The word limit for "speeches" is 500 words. Feel free to treat it like an actual speech and use phrases like "Ladies and Gentleman" and rhetorical devices.

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7. The Debate will begin on Monday 16th May at 7 AM CET. The First Speakers will have to send their speeches by midnight on the Sunday.

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1. "This House" represents the Earth and all countries within.

2. "Fracking" (Hydraulic Fracturing) is the process of drilling into rock with high-pressure water, sand and chemicals to release the natural gas within.

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Re: MTF Debate I: This House Would Frack

I would like to be a part of this but the subject does not interest me nor do I have enough knowledge to debate about it. Any alternatives?

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I would like to be a part of this but the subject does not interest me nor do I have enough knowledge to debate about it. Any alternatives?
We could do the alternative motion of: "This House would hold regular debates on MTF"?

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I would like to be a part of this but the subject does not interest me nor do I have enough knowledge to debate about it. Any alternatives?
Merkel was close to allow the fracking method used in the U.S. (it's on a moratorium). Watch Gasland and see if it does not interest you.
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Merkel was close to allow the fracking method used in the U.S. (it's on a moratorium). Watch Gasland and see if it does not interest you.
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Allow fracking of course. Why not?

Green extremists would like to bring us back to the stone age. They would stop nothing short of that. No thanks.

No time for 500 word novels, sorry.
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Allow fracking of course. Why not?
Because carcinogenic chemicals are used to blast the rocks, contaminating the aquifers.

But if you want to drink contaminated water or have gas coming out of your taps instead of water, sure, why not.


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Green extremists would like to bring us back to the stone age. They would stop nothing short of that. No thanks.
Did not know that in the stone age, solar panels, wind turbines, sea wave energy extractors, geothermal plants, etc, were used.

Sad times when caring for the health of Earth's inhabitants is an extremist view.

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Okay so it seems that @redshift36188 ; is very much for the original motion, but people like @Tennis4Lyf ; and @Sham Kay Adams ; seem more for a motion more like "This House would hold regular debates on MTF" , would people be happy to do either motion or favour one in particular?

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Okay so it seems that @redshift36188 ; is very much for the original motion, but people like @Tennis4Lyf ; and @Sham Kay Adams ; seem more for a motion more like "This House would hold regular debates on MTF" , would people be happy to do either motion or favour one in particular?
I have a proposal after watching a very funny and intense debate on tv.

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Okay so it seems that @redshift36188 ; is very much for the original motion, but people like @Tennis4Lyf ; and @Sham Kay Adams ; seem more for a motion more like "This House would hold regular debates on MTF" , would people be happy to do either motion or favour one in particular?
I thought you were being ironic by the lack of interest in this game when you said:
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We could do the alternative motion of: "This House would hold regular debates on MTF"?

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Because carcinogenic chemicals are used to blast the rocks, contaminating the aquifers.

But if you want to drink contaminated water or have gas coming out of your taps instead of water, sure, why not.



Did not know that in the stone age, solar panels, wind turbines, sea wave energy extractors, geothermal plants, etc, were used.

Sad times when caring for the health of Earth's inhabitants is an extremist view.
Propaganda with no proof. Green extremists are against fracking because it promotes fosil fuel usage. Anything else is pure speculation and propaganda.

Also any of listed energy sources or plants are not good enough for green extremists. Wind turbines kill birds for example, so not acceptable. No no. All electricity is bad. Very bad.
As said, they would stop at nothing short than stone age.
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Re: MTF Debate I: This House Would Frack

I think @Floki has not understood how this debate is supposed to work. You do not debate here. If you are for or against the motion, take part in the debate, which has its own rules as laid out by OP. If you think this is nonsense, you are more than welcome to ignore it and leave it for a structured debate on the dates and format as mentioned.

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Not really participating in the house debate. No time to write 500 words novels.

Just disproving redshifts misconceptions on the topic, addressed directly to me.
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I thought you were being ironic by the lack of interest in this game when you said:

Honestly I'd rather do the fracking motion since it's simple, but if people want a different motion then I'm happy to change.

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