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Criticism is fine, mockery isn't.
We could on during hours about what is fine and what isn't. But what is really important is how must people react when they see something they don't consider "fine".

There are things that I see everyday that offend me, that I don't consider to be "fine". But because I'm civilized, I react appropriately.

Wait, did I mention the word "civilized".

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Criticism is fine, mockery isn't.
Then maybe followers of organized religion should refrain from activities that invite such mockery.

Christians, Muslims...whatever they may be. Hypocrisy should be mocked whenever it is encountered.

Burning embassies is not an acceptable response, no better than pro-lifer Christian nutcases bombing womens' medical clinics....

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Then maybe followers of organized religion should refrain from activities that invite such mockery.

Christians, Muslims...whatever they may be. Hypocrisy should be mocked whenever it is encountered.

Burning embassies is not an acceptable response, no better than pro-lifer Christian nutcases bombing womens' medical clinics....

Its so easy to be agnostic in this day and age.
For the record, I don't support suicide bombings and the like.
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I was researching the cartoons from a good link

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698

While moving around in there I found a story that a young Belgian Muslim immigrant had published a picture of a topless Virgin Mary.
The Belgian government subsidises his work

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There's plenty of things that they do which offend us - we take it on the chin and don't retaliate.

When christians do stuff (not intentionally) its wrong.

And now they're rioting and God knows what else.

The Muslims rioting give a bad name for all of us "good" muslims. Not all of us are like that. I can understand and be subjective about it. Other Muslims can too!

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Great blog on the cartoon controversy:

http://www.cagle.com/news/BLOG/main.asp



And of course Iran has to prove to the world that it's still stuck in the 6th century:

Iranian Paper Plans Holocaust Cartoons
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

The dirty secret here is that many Middle Eastern countries routinely mock and insult non-Muslim countries with their own political cartoons so I don't see why this latest crop of anti-West cartoons would cause any reaction other than a yawn.

You certainly won't see any Christians or Jews rioting, killing people, or burning up embassies in protest.

And somebody please inform these crazies that writing placards in English threatening to kill "infidels" doesn't exactly prove the original cartoon wrong, does it?



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stupid and tasteless cartoons, even worst and disgusting reactions

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Great blog on the cartoon controversy:

http://www.cagle.com/news/BLOG/main.asp



And of course Iran has to prove to the world that it's still stuck in the 6th century:

Iranian Paper Plans Holocaust Cartoons
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

The dirty secret here is that many Middle Eastern countries routinely mock and insult non-Muslim countries with their own political cartoons so I don't see why this latest crop of anti-West cartoons would cause any reaction other than a yawn.

You certainly won't see any Christians or Jews rioting, killing people, or burning up embassies in protest.

And somebody please inform these crazies that writing placards in English threatening to kill "infidels" doesn't exactly prove the original cartoon wrong, does it?


... and don't forget gay people in most muslim countries

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"Europe, you will pay bin laden is way?" What does that mean?? Do they mean Bin Laden's way?
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I think there's a positive from this entire debacle, and that's that there can no doubt in any Westerner's mind what the values of a sizeable majority of Muslims are, and those values are not consistent with Western values.



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"Europe, you will pay bin laden is way?" What does that mean?? Do they mean Bin Laden's way?
I think it means "Bin Laden is the way." In other words, flying jumbo jets filled with passengers into skyscrapers filled with office workers is justified.

I wonder if the people who are holding these signs comprehend what they are saying about themselves, their religion, and their values.



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stupid and tasteless cartoons, even worst and disgusting reactions
fonso - you are the king of ''tasteless''

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The dirty secret here is that many Middle Eastern countries routinely mock and insult non-Muslim countries with their own political cartoons
And why not? It's not against the Law of Islam, is it? And that is the only Law that should be applied worlwide because of its superiority to all other forms of law, says he that dare not show his face.

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Say what you want about the original cartoons published by the Danish newspaper in Octover last year, but these reaction and the hate towards everything European now is most pathetic of the whole affair.

I really have to hold back now or I would say things that I could regret later

There are and have been plenty of problems and riots with other religions as well, but it seems that common sense took leave in a big way from some Islamic countries with all these extremists during the last couple of years.
Just bad for the good and peaceful Muslims among them, as I know there are plenty of them who distance themselves from such actions.

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Say what you want about the original cartoons published by the Danish newspaper in Octover last year, but these reaction and the hate towards everything European now is most pathetic of the whole affair.

I really have to hold back now or I would say things that I could regret later

There are and have been plenty of problems and riots with other religions as well, but it seems that common sense took leave in a big way from some Islamic countries with all these extremists during the last couple of years.
Just bad for the good and peaceful Muslims among them, as I know there are plenty of them who distance themselves from such actions.
I'll say them for you, then you won't have to ban yourself.

Syria and Lebanon: Two countries where the authorities could not ''control'' the mobs that burned the embassies. Yeah, right. Syria is ruled by a Muslim terrorist government.

Iran: Top item on the elected government's agenda seems to be the genocide of Jews. Iran is ruled by a Muslim terrorist government.

Palestine: Just elected a Muslim terrorist group to lead them.

Sudan: The Muslim government is systematically carrying out the genocide of non-Muslims in Darfur. Death toll may already have reached the hundreds of thousands. Kofi Annan turns a blind eye. Maybe does not want Muslim factions to reveal how much his family put in the bank in the oil-for-food scandal. Sudan is ruled by a Muslim terrorist government.

Iraq: This one is a puzzle. Seems to have descended into Muslims killing Muslims. Even instances of Muslims blowing up mosques, which one would think a far greater blasphemy than a cartoon, goes unremarked.

Afghanistan: At least the worst appears to be over. When the Taliban, a terrorist government, was in power we saw cruelty taken to extremes as Islamic law was practiced. And that was just Muslims stoning Muslims to death in the football stadium. Imagine what execution means they could think up for executing us infidels for the glory of Allah.

All Muslim Nations: Still moaning over a few drawings that broke no national laws. Streets now full of mobs calling for the death of Europeans, any European will do, we are all infidels. I think the murder of innocents is against Islamic Law, but the leaders of the Islamic nations seem to have put that particular law on hold for now.

So not to worry everybody. As Neely says, there are lots of good Muslims out there. They just don't have a voice in their governments.

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