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London: Man shot by armed police on Tube

A man has been shot at Stockwell Tube station by armed police officers. Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen an Asian man shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers" with a handgun.

Passengers were evacuated from the Northern Line station in south London. Police have also cordoned off surrounding streets.

Eyewitnesses say armed police have surrounded a mosque in east London that has been evacuated after a bomb scare.

Police are hunting four would-be bombers after Thursday's London blasts.

The bombers fled after detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines have been suspended following a request by the police, London Underground said.

Ambulances including an air ambulance have been sent to the scene.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I was sitting on the train reading my paper.

"I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down'!

"I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he's dead."

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say, 'Get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."


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Is he really related to London's explosion on Thursday? At least, police should make an investigation on him.
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I used to change lines at Stockwell like everyday. Never in my life would I have predicted it to be the scene of an incident like this

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Great job by the british police


And where are all the ppl who said that israel aren't allowed to kill people if they are suspect? so i understand that Great Britian allowed

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Finally they are walking around with guns, its long overdue!!! Its amazing how long it was that the cops didnt carry guns. Seems they have finally started to man up
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The thing is, it seems the bombing two weeks was a trigger for everyone else to try and attempt (we all knew this would happen). Once someone see how easy it is, the rest are going to do it too.
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Is he really related to London's explosion on Thursday? At least, police should make an investigation on him.
Yes, police have confirmed that he was wanted in connection with the attacks on Thursday.

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And where are all the ppl who said that israel aren't allowed to kill people if they are suspect? so i understand that Great Britian allowed
The Police are allowed to 'shoot to kill' anyone who they suspect is involved in any terrorist events. The guy was warned by police prior to the gunshots being fired, but as he failed to respond, Police had no choice but to shoot him.


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Not all the Police in the UK are walking round with guns, only the plain clothes Police and the Armed Police. The normal police officers out on patrol aren't carrying guns.
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Yes, police have confirmed that he was wanted in connection with the attacks on Thursday.


The Police are allowed to 'shoot to kill' anyone who they suspect is involved in any terrorist events. The guy was warned by police prior to the gunshots being fired, but as he failed to respond, Police had no choice but to shoot him.



Not all the Police in the UK are walking round with guns, only the plain clothes Police and the Armed Police. The normal police officers out on patrol aren't carrying guns.
aha thanks! I wasnt sure if they were all doing so or not
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And where are all the ppl who said that israel aren't allowed to kill people if they are suspect? so i understand that Great Britian allowed
That's right Nimrodg, this is all about you. Score as many political points as you can while people are still dazed, raw, confused and terrified.

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It now turns out that the man shot dead earlier today wasn't one of the suspects wanted in connection with the incidents yesterday but was part of the Anti-Terrorist Investigation.

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Police have issued CCTV images of four men they want to question over the attempted bomb attacks on three Tube trains and a bus in London on Thursday.

Met Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman said anyone who knew who or where the men were should contact police.

The bombers fled after detonators went off that failed to ignite explosives.

A man shot dead by anti-terror police at Stockwell Tube on Friday was not one of the four suspects. Investigations later led to the arrest of a man.

The man was detained at about 1715 BST in Stockwell, south London.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair earlier told a news conference that the fatal Tube station shooting was part of anti-terrorist operations.

Scotland Yard urged anyone who knew the whereabouts of the men captured by CCTV to call 999, or if they could identify any of them to call the anti-terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321.

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Officers raided three addresses across the capital on Friday as part of anti-terrorist operations.

That included a search of an address in Harrow Road, west London, where area resident Patricia Osbourne said she heard six shots fired.

Sir Ian told a news conference on Friday that Scotland Yard was facing "the greatest operational challenge" in its history.

Officers hunting Thursday's would-be bombers were facing "previously unknown threats and great danger", he said.

"This operation is targeted against criminals - not any community or section of a community," Sir Ian added.

Thursday's attacks began at about 1230 BST, with bombs at Warren Street station, central London, Shepherd's Bush station in the west, Oval in the south and on a bus in Shoreditch, east London.

Along with the CCTV images, police revealed details they believed about the suspects' movements:

- The first image showed a man in a black sweater running away from Oval station's Northern Line at 1234 BST on Thursday. Police believe he had travelled north from Stockwell. His top was later found in nearby Brixton.

- The second image showed a man on the number 26 bus travelling from Waterloo to Hackney Wick. He got off the bus at Hackney Road at about 1306 BST.

- The third image showed a man leaving Warren Street station at 1239 BST.

- Police believe the man pictured at Westbourne Park station at 1221 BST travelled west on the Hammersmith and City Line to Shepherd's Bush, where he ran from the station.

Following the incidents, streets were cordoned off, parts of the transport network closed and stations evacuated, but no-one was badly hurt.

Two men, one arrested in Whitehall, close to Downing Street, and another around Tottenham Court Road, were later released without charge.

Three of the devices found were the same size and weight as those used for the 7 July London bombings, while the fourth was smaller and appeared to have been contained in a plastic box. The same chemicals appear to have been used.

Assistant Commissioner Hayman told the news conference: "At this stage it is believed the devices consisted of homemade explosives and were contained in dark coloured bags or rucksacks. It is too early to tell how these were detonated."

Sir Ian said on Thursday: "Clearly the intention must have been to kill. You don't do this with any other intention."

'Forensic Bingo'
Former government intelligence analyst Crispin Black said the chance to examine the bombs themselves was "forensic bingo", saying: "This is as good as it gets."

BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the devices were so similar there was speculation they could have been part of the same batch.

"The explosive might have degraded over time or had not been put together right in this case, or it could have been a completely different batch of explosives - homemade - that had not been cooked up properly."

The bombers' plan might have been disrupted by the investigation into the 7 July attacks, forcing them to act before they had been fully prepared, Corera added.

Some witnesses said the Thursday's attackers seemed "scared" or "surprised" when their bombs failed to explode properly.

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They've got one of them now though - Sky says they've just arrested a guy at Stockwell thought to be the one who planted the bomb at the Oval - assumingly the shot man was something to do with him. They have also arrested a man at Birmingham with two "suspect" suitcases.

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Has it been confirmed yet that he was a terrorist? However, why should he run away if he was innocent?

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Has it been confirmed yet that he was a terrorist? However, why should he run away if he was innocent?
All they're saying so far is that he had "links to the terrorists" - think he was from the same address as the bomber who was subsequently arrested - but the Police can't say too much publically at this stage I guess as it might jeopardise their plans to catch the other 3 men.

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Has it been confirmed yet that he was a terrorist? However, why should he run away if he was innocent?
See article below....

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Police have said a man shot dead by police at Stockwell Tube station in south London is "directly linked" to anti-terrorist operations.

Scotland Yard said the man shot dead at about 1000 BST on Friday in Stockwell had still to be formally identified.

He was being under police observation because he had emerged from a house that was being watched following Thursday's attacks, a spokesman said.

The man was followed by surveillance officers to Stockwell station, where his clothing and behaviour added to their suspicions, he added.

Sir Ian told a press conference: "I need to make clear that any death is deeply regrettable but as I understand the situation the man was challenged and refused to obey police instructions."

The circumstances of the shooting are being investigated and will be scrutinised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, Scotland Yard added.

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I think the police acted right. Who knows what might have happened. I don`t want to be in the center of an explosion, so why should the police "protect" these people... Our lives are much more important.

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