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Re: Natalee Holloway - American teen missing on Aruba

Nothing abt this here in Romania I'm off to google it, but just a few questions before I go..... What abt a motive? Why would anyone kill her? I know that she was rich, but so what? Doesn't mean you automatically get money if u kill her. And how much money could she have been carrying on her, anyway? I'm more inclined to believe she had some sort of accident (if she had been drinking or doing drugs) and is lying somewhere in a ditch.... (hope not, tho )

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It's such a sad story. I don't know how potentially vulnerable teenage girls like Natalee Holloway can be allowed to do what they want when they are visiting another country celebrating high school graduation. Especially when they very likely have partying and meeting guys they don't know on their minds. That's when they are most vulnerable. A woman friend of mine here in New York who has been to Aruba a couple of times says that she thinks the guys she was with killed her and then threw her body to the sharks into the water because that way she would never be found and they could never be prosecuted. What an awful way for a young life to end. Just as it was beginning.

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It's such a sad story. I don't know how potentially vulnerable teenage girls like Natalee Holloway can be allowed to do what they want when they are visiting another country celebrating high school graduation. Especially when they very likely have partying and meeting guys they don't know on their minds. That's when they are most vulnerable. A woman friend of mine here in New York who has been to Aruba a couple of times says that she thinks the guys she was with killed her and then threw her body to the sharks into the water because that way she would never be found and they could never be prosecuted. What an awful way for a young life to end. Just as it was beginning.

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there are lots of sharks in the waters around Aruba. in the time that the authorities were busy torturing two Black men, her body could have been fed to the sharks piece by piece in the dead of night. that's my macabre theory.

watch her show up in 2 months happily preggers for a local boy and wondering what all the fuss was about

my teenage niece is about to go to Guadaloupe on an exchange program. altho' she's accustomed to being in the caribbean as we all are, here's the advice that i emailed her in big bold letters: "do NOT do something in a foreign country that you would not do at home." it's that simple.

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i found this article:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/7/3/491/18474
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i found a site of hers.

http://www.nataleeholloway.com/
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Re: Natalee Holloway - American teen missing on Aruba

As a mother, I understand how devastated her parents are and really am sorry this happened.

But I am also sick of the way US and media treating the Aruba government. If this happens in US, there's no way any people would be kept in jail for such a long time with a missing person case. Even with her body found (which I highly doubt) and it's a murder case, unless there are more evidents that directly link them to the killing, those people would never spend more than 48 hours in jail (the max. time the authorities can detain someone without prosecuting).

Again, this is the double standards that the US treat her own people than foreigners.

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This case is ridiculous. No revelations ever pop up--it's not going anywhere, yet there is always all these people on satellite, giving interviews, making commentary, on what??? Nobody even knows anything, I mean, this case is just a mess! Quagmire. And just goes to show how easily people can become yesterday's news, literally, now with the London explosions. CNN, MSNBC, FOX... Natalee who??? Did the media ever *really care*?

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And when will the teenagers in US learned? This is not the first time that when students graduated from high school, take a tour to nearby foreign countries and get into trouble! How can a girl to be so bright, smart and well behaved (from the picture created by the media) will be so stupid to be separated from her friends and go with 3 total strangers?
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And when will the teenagers in US learned? This is not the first time that when students graduated from high school, take a tour to nearby foreign countries and get into trouble! How can a girl to be so bright, smart and well behaved (from the picture created by the media) will be so stupid to be separated from her friends and go with 3 total strangers?
I'm not going to argue with you...I have better things to do with my time, but I am slightly agitated by your comments.

First off, do not stick this only to teenagers in the United States. We're not stupid or naive (at least not any less than any other teenager in any other country)...shit just happens.

Secondly, this could have happened to anyone...no matter how "bright, smart, and well behaved" they are. Anytime alcohol gets thrown into the equation, anything can happen and everything changes. I know (for a fact) Natalee is not the only person that has ever left a club with someone they've just met that night. I'm not even going to bother explaining this further, but as I said...shit happens.

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I'm not going to argue with you...I have better things to do with my time, but I am slightly agitated by your comments.

First off, do not stick this only to teenagers in the United States. We're not stupid or naive (at least not any less than any other teenager in any other country)...shit just happens.
Sorry if I accidentally applied to all teenagers. That's not my intention.

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Secondly, this could have happened to anyone...no matter how "bright, smart, and well behaved" they are. Anytime alcohol gets thrown into the equation, anything can happen and everything changes. I know (for a fact) Natalee is not the only person that has ever left a club with someone they've just met that night. I'm not even going to bother explaining this further, but as I said...shit happens.
So blame this on alcohol? Nobody points a gun to anyone to drink too much alcohol to the point that they lost their good judgement. This is not shit just happens. This is preventable. Drinking alcohol to the point that your brain do not function the way it should be is not shit happens

Yes, you can tell all those people killed by drunk drivers that shit happens And no, I'm not just pointing to teenagers. I am aiming at all those people who drank to the point that they lost the good sense and jumped into a car and killing people.

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This story is gonna have a sad ending soon....they will probly find her in the bottom of the ocean

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And when will the teenagers in US learned? This is not the first time that when students graduated from high school, take a tour to nearby foreign countries and get into trouble! How can a girl to be so bright, smart and well behaved (from the picture created by the media) will be so stupid to be separated from her friends and go with 3 total strangers?
because pepole (not just teenagers) do not see the caribbean islands as real countries in which real things can happen. they're supposed to be these idyllic getaways populated by innocent natives that dance the hula and fish money out of the sea with their teeth. i can't begin to describe how much this irks me.

if this teen had behaved the way she would have in her own hometown, this may not have happened. you don't go to another country and hang out with three strange men. but a lot of people -- including grown women -- have such foolish ideas about the caribbean that they make themselves vulnerable.

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Re: Natalee Holloway - American teen missing on Aruba

Lee, teenagers (and adults, duh, but that's not really relevant here) do stupid things. I can say that I put myself in MANY situations where shit could have happened - it just didn't, because it doesn't most of the time people act stupid. I could say that I was lucky, but I tend think that the small percentage of people who are doing what is generally "normal behaviour" that get into trouble like this are just unlucky.

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It's so stupid if they blame Aruba. People get killed/kidnapped everywhere. People get *****/murdered in US everyday, so are we bad?

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Thanks for your comments everybody!
I've read several other discussions about this case, where the tone is that Aruba is a corrupt, drug trading shit hole, which should be boycotted and which has stupid inhabitants. Glad to know that there are reasonable people left on this earth, who can also spot the hypocrisy in the reoprting of this event.
I read a blog by a certain Dan Riehl, can anybody inform who this guy is? It seems to me he is one of those übernationalists in the line of Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. This Riehl character seems to have made it his life purpose to demonise Aruba into bankruptcy.

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