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8 Ball Pool Rule Question - Help!

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#1 ·
After the break and I am on "Stripes".

Hit the cue ball --- hits a stripe ball first --- that ball hits a solid ball --- solid ball is pocketed --- then a stripe ball is pocketed.

This that a legal shot? Am I allowed to continue?
 
#2 ·
In 8 ball, you can only continue if you pocket the ball that you intended to pocket into the pocket that you said you would pocket it (i.e. you must call the ball and the pocket). So if you called it, then you can continue. It's legal anyway; your friend won't get a hand ball from that.
 
#3 ·
And also, you said after the break. So I understood that you'd hit only one shot before that, which was the break? In that case, the types of balls you play has not yet been chosen. If you pocket balls from the break, that only means that you can continue your turn. The first legal called pot of a ball will determine the "color".
 
#5 ·
The reason I asked is because of the situation:

My friend solid ball is on the edge of the pocket. But right behind it is a stripe ball.

Is it a legal shot if my cue ball hits my stripe ball first then it causes the solid ball to fall but then my stripe ball is pocketed after?

*Assuming I called it*
 
#6 ·
Yeah it is legal :). E.g. I have pocketed balls where the opponent's ball is on the edge of the pocket and I hit my ball first, it hits the opponent's ball and then follows the opponent's ball into the pocket, it's legal as long as you hit your own ball first and then you're allowed to continue if the ball you called goes into the pocket you called.
 
#8 ·
Indeed! Pool games tend to have quite simple rules, and still there's always room for argument :lol:.
 
#9 ·
Actually, it depends on which rules you play by. There are litterally hundreds of rules, from American Bar Rules, to proper tournament rules, to table rules, to house rules.

For example, some rules if you scratch on the 8 or foul on the 8 you lose the game, others its simply ball in hand like normal.

Some rules a foul is punished by ball in hand, others by 2 shot advantage. Some tables have a D, some a line.

Some rules you cannot shoot backward off the D, others you can. In the case of the D, sometimes a scratch is punished by a shot from anywhere in the D, others its a ball in hand anywhere on the table.
 
#10 · (Edited)
For example, some rules if you scratch on the 8 or foul on the 8 you lose the game, others its simply ball in hand like normal. Of course, if the 8 goes down in a pocket off a foul or scratch, you would lose under any rule as you cannot replace the ball on the table.

Some house rules even state that if you sink the 8 off the break (one in 10 000 chance) you win the game, but most rules it would be a loss. Thats more of a gimmick rule not an official one.

Some rules even have stipulations regarding the 8, maybe you have 3 attempts to sink it, othewise you lose.

However the big one is the nomination of pockets. Having to say which shot and pocket you are going for, and if it goes into a different pocket, it's a foul. But most people don't bother with that rule, as it's A. Not well known amongst casual gamers, B is time consuming and C is usually not needed as it's fairly obvious 95% of the time what you are trying to do, though it does take some luck out of the equation if you apply the rule. Also, technically a ball has to hit a rail or go into a pocket (the white hitting a rail counts) too for it to be a legal shot. Some people try to snooker you by tapping the white behind their ball, but thats a foul shot under most rules. Like I said, hundreds of variations. The biggest influence of the pocket nomination rule would be on the eight, as a lot of people just bash the 8 and hope it goes into a pocket, but under the nominate rule you would only have a 1 in 6 chance of actually winning the game off of a legal shot.
 
#11 ·
Yeah "pub" rules are always subjective.

But in my case my reasoning was under the Standardised world 8 ball rules which states my shot would be perfectly legal.

Would pub rules ever make a legal shot in my case, a foul?! Have you heard of such a thing?
 
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