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France will definitely be a force to reckon with. They must have 5 players within the current world 20 best.
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If Ibrahimovic choose home country, he suppose to play in Brazil
Ronaldo equal record of Pauleta for most goals with Portugal

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France will definitely be a force to reckon with. They must have 5 players within the current world 20 best.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Behave JM, they barely qualified past Ukraine.

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Yeah, the funny thing is they drew the other 2 matches it seems they were out but managed to beat a tanking Brazil (2 goals in the last 5 mins, something like that).
Not quite as bad as that. Brazil scored in the 77th, Norway in the 82nd and 88th. Brazil didn't want to lose, obviously, but can't be said to have been very highly motivated. Some might think they should have been, though, Norway as far as I know is the only national team to have a clearly positive H2H against Brazil. We've beaten then twice, had two draws and never lost (!). Also interesting, we have two wins from two matches against Argentina. Doesn't help much, though, when we can't beat Iceland

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So with the teams qualified the draw on Dec 6 should be straightforward right? France is the lowest ranked European team so they would go into Pot 3 with the Africans right?


Pot 1: Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland
Pot 2: Holland, Italy, England, Russia, Bosnia, Greece, Portugal, Croatia
Pot 3: France, Chile, Ecuador, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Algeria, Cameroon
Pot 4: USA, Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica, Japan, Korea, Iran, Australia

France must go into the group of Brazil, Argentina, Colombia or Uruguay
Chile and Ecuador must into the group of Spain, Germany, Belgium or Switzerland

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I will support, because I hope I will be alive to see my team to WC someday

Brazil, Italy, Belgium, Croatia, Colombia and Bosnia


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Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Behave JM, they barely qualified past Ukraine.
They still have amazing players. Better quality than most teams. If they manage to play as a team they could toy with anyone.
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Nah I don't think France will do much really, they have a good team but they struggled to qualify past Ukraine and teams like Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy are much better.
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I think that Argentina lacks more competent people in charge, I mean you have lots of talented guys but I see guys like Rojo always there, then guys like Otamendi who did a good seasson last year was never called, (strange since he is better than Rojo) this seasson Otamendi is in the worst form of his carrer and is called
Then you have Garay that is a good player but hardly good enough for a team that wants to win the World Cup, your GK does a lot of mistakes too. Who are the players that can make Argentina defence good enough?
Yep, Romero is a mediocre GK and hasn't been playing regular football in almost a year. Orion & Saja are Argentina's best GK currently, but they won't go to the WC or one of them will as 3rd goalkeeper. Zabaleta is the RB, as he should, no complains there. The disaster are the CB. Gonzalo Rodriguez and Fazio should play there. Gonzalo is one of the best defenders in Serie A at the moment, and isn't even being called. Fazio was called a few times, but the ones playing are Federico Fernandez, Otamendi, Dominguez, Basanta (!), etc. Rojo as LB is the biggest joke of all time. That's definitely our weakest spot, but Ansaldi or Insúa would surely do a better job. The midfield and strikers are fine, except the obvious absence of Tevez, that should be called again if he keeps playing at this level.
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This. Belgium are the most naturally talented team in the world. Hopefully they don't choke.
No they're not. Germany are the 'most naturally talented team in the world'. Belgium are a good team at the moment but nothing more. The team is full of overrated EPL players. Fellaini,Benteke,Lukaku, Vertongen etc are good premier league players but against the best at this level they don't cut it. Moreover they only have two world class players, the goalie and Hazard (who i'm still not 100% sure on). Liverpool goalie mignolet has potential too, so they are pretty loaded in that area. Anyway, I'm rambling, one day they might contest for major honors but definitely not next year.


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I love how people never counts on Portugal even as dark horses, and then we always go to SF and QF.
QF nothing more. As soon as Portugal plays one of the big teams they're out. As always

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France will definitely be a force to reckon with. They must have 5 players within the current world 20 best.
Ribery...and? 2nd round max. Look at their results not just last few months, but last few years. Not good enough and nothing is changing in the next 6 months.
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No they're not. Germany are the 'most naturally talented team in the world'. Belgium are a good team at the moment but nothing more. The team is full of overrated EPL players. Fellaini,Benteke,Lukaku, Vertongen etc are good premier league players but against the best at this level they don't cut it. Moreover they only have two world class players, the goalie and Hazard (who i'm still not 100% sure on). Liverpool goalie mignolet has potential too, so they are pretty loaded in that area. Anyway, I'm rambling, one day they might contest for major honors but definitely not next year.




QF nothing more. As soon as Portugal plays one of the big teams they're out. As always



Ribery...and? 2nd round max. Look at their results not just last few months, but last few years. Not good enough and nothing is changing in the next 6 months.
Are you kidding me, both Belgium and Germany are incorrect.

Spain, Brazil, Argentina and Italy have the most talent easily.

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They still have amazing players. Better quality than most teams. If they manage to play as a team they could toy with anyone.
They've had some talented players for years yet since Zidane's headbutt they've been absolute dross. Now Domenech was awful but Blanc and Deschamps have decent resumes, so there's no real excuse for them not to perform now.

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Are you kidding me, both Belgium and Germany are incorrect.

Spain, Brazil, Argentina and Italy have the most talent easily.
Any chance to bring down Germany right? that's the mentally that the rest of the world seems to have. Spain,Brazil,Argentina and Italy over Germany? are you crazy? Germany could field 3 teams that contend for a world cup place. Virtually our entire top team contested the most recent champions league final. The others started for Real Madrid and the Arsenal captain. No one can touch Germany. Moreover German players are the most sought after in the world.

Brazil have been heavily overrated in the past year which annoys me...so much. Same for the Italians who have for whatever reason been given a favorites tag this year. Aside from the farce that was euro 2012 they haven't been a top ten team since they won the wc in 2006, 7 years ago!. Sick of hearing of all these talented Italian youngsters. The big ones like Giovinco and Montolivo have flopped considering the hype they generated for their performances in their average league. Italy more talent than Germany?? must be a wind cup comment. Surely.

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Any chance to bring down Germany right? that's the mentally that the rest of the world seems to have. Spain,Brazil,Argentina and Italy over Germany? are you crazy? Germany could field 3 teams that content for a world cup place. Virtually our entire top team contested the most recent champions league final. The others started for Real Madrid and the Arsenal captain. No one can touch Germany. Moreover German players are the most sought after in the world.

Brazil have been heavily overrated in the past year which annoys me...so much. Same for the Italians who have for whatever reason been given a favorites tag this year. Aside from the farce that was euro 2012 they havnt been a top ten team since they won the wc in 2006, 7 years ago!. Sick of hearing of all these talented Italian youngsters. The big ones like Giovinco and Montolivo have flopped considering the hype they generated for their performances in their average league. Italy more talent than Germany?? must be a wind cup comment. Surely.

final - Germany vs Argentina. 2-1 aet, Götze.
Actually no, it's not to bring down Germany.

No Germany could not field 3 for a WC place, you way overrate them, Spain maybe could field 2 though.

I think you might want to know that most of Bayern Munich's best players aren't German.

Brazil are back now, they were looking weak, but beating Spain has them back in contention for sure. Italy wasn't a farce, I'm not saying that they will win the WC, just saying that they might still have more talent than Germany, cause that's what we are talking about here, who has the most talent, not who is the best or going to win the WC.

So you admit that Argentina has at least as much talent as Germany, if not more.

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Actually no, it's not to bring down Germany.

I think you might want to know that most of Bayern Munich's best players aren't German.

Brazil are back now, they were looking weak, but beating Spain has them back in contention for sure. Italy wasn't a farce, I'm not saying that they will win the WC, just saying that they might still have more talent than Germany, cause that's what we are talking about here, who has the most talent, not who is the best or going to win the WC.

So you admit that Argentina has at least as much talent as Germany, if not more.
First sentence shows you're obviously a German hater. Best 3 players for Bayern in the champions league and domestically were the captain,vice captain and goalie. The German side without the non-German players are just as strong if not stronger. No Ribery/Robben? fine we bring in Reus, Muller who is already preferred to Robben, Schurrle,Draxler,Sam and Ozil. I prefer these options anyway. I also prefer the Benders and Khedira to Martinez. Need i say more..

Brazil never went anywhere, they have always been contenders and always will be. Talent is always coming in and out of the region. If there's no Ronaldo, there's Ronaldinho, no Ronny there's Kaka, no Kaka there's Neymar. However to say they are on Germany's level is quite the outrageous statement. For every 5-o win over Honduras or Zambia there's a loss to the Swiss. This world tour was designed to get some hype back for Brazil since that's where the WC is, guess its working.. German youngsters are preferred to Brazilian's everywhere apart from Ukraine and Russia. If Mou could have signed Draxler over Willian, he would have without thinking twice. Same for the option of having Ozil/Khedira over Oscar and Ramires. German players are just incredibly hard to prize away from the Bundesliga. However i will say there's more talent in Brazil currently than in Italy.

talent wise, chance of win wise, Italy are behind Germany. Come on lets not kids ourselves, which position is Italy stronger? Balotelli on his day yes is better than any German striker but the key phrase here is 'on his day'. Aside from the fact that he's already used up his good performance vs us, he's incredibly inconsistent, injury prone and unreliable. He get's carded every game. Who knows he may not even make Brazil. At the start of the season, the two predicted top seria a scorers were both German. Had it not been for injuries, it most likely would have turned out like that. Otherwise where are Italy stronger? don't even mention the heavily declined Buffon or Pirlo in the cm. Those two are the most declined players of the year. Compared to Schweini and Neuer, champions league winner...they are miles behind. The German midfield is miles ahead. Miles ahead. We have a cm spot contested between Gundogan and Schweini. Our attacking midfielders and Wingers? come on man. Same for defense, great mix of youth and veterans. Yes it hasn't been a great year for the national team defensively, but hasn't been a classic year for Italy either.

Argentina have better forwards maybe, just Messi. Midfielders and the rest? lets not even discuss. Aside from Messi and Aguero, this is not Argentina's best period for producing talent. Actually its one of the weakest since i can remember.

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