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How to Woo an Out And Out Beautiful Woman?

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#1 ·
Common I need some Strategies



Have tried everything from Original Pick Up Lines to

Being Frank and Honest about Myself. ( I am in a Hopeless Career and on the verge of Giving Up on it)
To

Being Sensitive About World Peace and Environment in General :D


To Being Champion of Womans Rights :D


Nothing Seems to be Working

Oh Yes and She is not the Woman that Goes Around with Every Other Guy Around. She is one of those Pristine Types. She has such a Beautiful Smile. Her Hairs are Brown. She is neither thin Nor Fat. She has a Slender Waist and almost Perfect Figure. When she puts her Pics on Facebooks Usually she gets around 100 Likes and Comments. And it necessarily doesnt have to be she who puts her Pic, Those are Others who Put her Pics. FYI, She is a Teacher about Advertising and i think she is connected with the Modelling Industry.
 
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#3 ·
Weave MTF in the conversation while lying about your ACC credentials.
 
#7 ·
a body like that will help dear troy

 
#14 ·
Tyler Durden says that does not look like a real man. But then again, if you are Brad Pitt you really can be a dirty unshaved anarchist psycho and still not lose any fuckability.

This guy's body clearly wont help him to take women to bed:

 
#8 ·
Be yourself, say hi, let things flow naturally. You will be able to tell if she likes you. If she doesn't, move on don't get friendzoned. If she is that popular, it will be easy to get friendzoned.

Oh also Punky is right. You need to live up to her standards, which may be higher if she is in the modeling industry.
 
#10 ·
Be yourself, say hi, let things flow naturally. You will be able to tell if she likes you. If she doesn't, move on don't get friendzoned. If she is that popular, it will be easy to get friendzoned.

Oh also Punky is right. You need to live up to her standards, which may be higher if she is in the modeling industry.
i was joking..


i think one of the things that will buy a woman is a Generous heart and a good sense of Homer.
make a woman Laugh and shes yours IMHO
 
#12 ·
Confidence.....confidence.....confidence....and confidence.

That is all that matters really, if it shines through your character it doesnt really matter what you say to a woman.

Now where to find the source of that confidence is a whole different story.

It is some ol bullshit that you should "just" be yourself, there is no wisdom in such advice at all, there is a war waged out there and only some few winners are selected. So try to better yourself or stand last in line.
 
#36 ·
Well I am a woman, I may not be a typical woman (I don't know about that) but still... my take on the various answers.



Yes with the first part, no to the second part.
It's true that confidence is attractive. Not arrogance, but just the impression that you are comfortable with who you are. You can even be shy, without being insecure, they are two entirely different things.
But when insecurity shines through, or even worse, if you give the impression of being somehow bitter about women, or desperate, then it would put me off.

But I am also put off by a lack of authenticity. So, being yourself is good advice, but that means, if you're insecure and put women off, you probably need to work on yourself first.

it's mostly about self confidence and a little bit of humour here and there.

humour (of the flirting type) + sef confidence (almost bordering on arrogance) = panties dropper
I disagree with that. The idea that you only need to "make women laugh" to win them over is annoying in my opinion... It's not true for me. I don't need a clown to make me laugh, of course, a serious guy who never laughs and has no sense of humour would be boring, but it's so painful when a guy desperately tries to be funny in an attempt to win you over... Usually, it's embarrassing for everyone, and it would even tend to make me angry at the guy.

Don't put her on a pedestal, which it seems like you've already put her on a pedestal and listened to her every whim and keep changing your opinion for her.

Treat her like you would treat any other person, which seems you have already failed at since you keep describing her as if she is some sort of goddess.
This is very true. I had that problem with one of my boyfriends. I believe that maybe, he had been used to more insecure girls, who needed to be reassured constantly... and he probably like the idea, because that made him feel "useful". But a woman who has no self-confidence issues will not be looking for constant validation on your part.
Being treated like you're some kind of princess or goddess is very disturbing: you feel like you should be grateful, but at the same time, you didn't ask for this, and you don't need this, and after a while you even begin to feel like you are being put into a "cage" (because you're expected to be that perfect, supernatural being which you are not).

Stop thinking like this is some game you're supposed to "win". There's no strategy.
Exactly. I think that's the key point. Every woman is different. Of course, some women are insecure and desperately looking for validation, and a man to boost their self-esteem. With such women, "strategies" like treating them like goddesses might work, but that also means you're taking advantage of a weakness, and that's a very unhealthy basis for a relationship. It's disingenuous as well, obviously.

The most important thing is to understand, once and for all, that women are persons. They're not a block of people who behave in the same way. They all have different taste, and different problems, they're looking for different things...
So if you start with the idea that there is one strategy that "works" with women in general, you are already on the wrong path (and it's also a rather misogynist way of thinking, because it denies us our specificities as individuals).

IMO, the sad reality is, it's in great part a matter of luck. If you're lucky enough to be this woman's type, to have a personality that's appealing to her, then unless you screw everything up (by trying to hard to adopt another behaviour, or by hiding too well that you're interested in her so she'll give up on you), you should have no problems.

If you're not attractive to her, then, there isn't much to be done really. I don't think you can "make" yourself attractive to someone by adopting a calculated behaviour. Maybe you can lose a few bad habits that put women off, I don't know. But my opinion is that there really isn't any "strategy". If she likes you, she likes you, if she doesn't, she doesn't, and that's all there is to it.
Usually, men who cannot accept this simple reality are the ones who end up being "friendzoned" as they say, or showering a girl with presents or attentions in the hope of winning her over, and then often they end up calling her a bitch because the strategy doesn't work. But in the majority of cases, the strategy cannot work.

I know that when this has happened to me (a guy who liked me, and whom I didn't particularly like, who wouldn't give up on me and tried to woo me with presents and so on), it actually made the guy quite obnoxious in my eyes, instead of making him more attractive.

Glare, glare and glare. Do not smile. Smiling is for women. Tell her directly that YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HER. Roundabout nonsense never works. Trust me.
Oh please, DO smile! Smiling is for women? BS! Nothing is more appealing to me than a man with a genuine, warm smile.

I agree on the second part, though, do show her clearly (or tell her outright) that you are interested in her. Don't settle in a kind of roundabout approach that will only end up being an annoyance to her and torture to you.
 
#27 ·
Agreed. Lots of it. Vodka is preferable.
 
#24 ·
Wait until 7pm on the 10th of March which is when Johnny Groove's ban is lifted and he will be here to provide the magic answer.
 
#25 ·
Wait what, this thread wasn't started by 2003?

Just be funny man...and not the, awkward guy funny, genuinely funny. A dash of alcohol goes a long way to get over the nervous bits if that's an issue.

But the problem probably is, that if she isn't feeling ´something´ from the beginning, if there isn´t any kind of tension, it's a lot harder. I always find whatever a girl I really like says hilarious, even if it's completely boring otherwise. And that goes both ways, if you're both in that placce you can talk for hours about absolutely nothing and everything just goes without having to do ANY effort at all.

If you have to go on an interview forum to find a way to get it done...meh, methinks it´s probably not gonna happen. And let me finish off with the standard ´be confident and happy with yourself´ cliché, which couldn´t be more true. But that´s also not something you can easily change, you really have to feel that way.

You are welcome for the most useless advise ever. :hatoff: But what did you expect, that there is some magical, foolproof formula? Every guy and girl is different, so even if two guys do the exact same thing to the same girl, it probably only would work for one of them in a hypothetical situation.
 
#26 ·
Don't put her on a pedestal, which it seems like you've already put her on a pedestal and listened to her every whim and keep changing your opinion for her.

Treat her like you would treat any other person, which seems you have already failed at since you keep describing her as if she is some sort of goddess.

Flirt with her, you probably haven't done this either.

/thread.

Seems like you've not followed any of the above. Just forget about her and move on.
 
#30 ·
Actually you are probably right about the first part of not treating her as a Goddess. But hang on,Dont Girls need to be Told they are special ?


Also I was flirting with her. But flirted her with too much since she told me Show me some Substance when i went overboard with the Flirting Part.
 
#28 ·
It´s all up to match up-issues mate. With some girls, you just have to exploit a weakness, with others you have to employ variety to get them out of their comfort zone, whereas yet other girls are too agressive and need some consistency. Good luck and remember: if you can´t woo a girl this way, you can always vulture the insecure ones.
 
#31 ·
Actually you are reminding me about the Andy Murray Issue. With a Lendl on Board he eventually won a Grand Slam. Need to find a Lendl from Somewhere.:D


And with the part of Vulturing thats interesting because a David Ferrer might win 6 7 Titles a Year but he will still be league Below Djokovic,Fed and Murray.
 
#37 · (Edited)
Just relax really, don't make a big deal out of it. Approach her/them with a mindset of 'Ok, let's see how this goes' instead of 'I have to do this, that, etc... to be perfect in order for her to like me'. In short, don't make her the prize that you must earn, take a casual approach, there's no objective reason to be desperate over something like that.

Also, take failure in stride, if you don't succeed with that specific girl, it's not like there are not other 'out and out beautiful' girls out there. I can assure you that people who are able to take failure in stride are much less likely to fail than those who are constantly afraid of screwing up. You just need to let go of any inihibitions really and go for it: what's the worst that could happen? Getting dumped by a woman you never even had anything with in the first place? Gee that sounds like the end of the world.

The more you second-guess yourself, the harder it will be for you in this or any other endeavour. If you're not capable of being naturally confident/have naturally high self-esteem, just take the recklessness route in cases like this instead of overcautiousness.
 
#38 ·
Common I need some Strategies
It's very simple. Generic rule with women is "Nice guys finish last". You need to be bad. Drink, smoke, act like an asshole, play in a rock band. If you're really hardcore, you may want to consider becoming actual criminal; obviously that carries considerable risks, and many women will probably think that's going too far, but even if you don't land The Girl, you're pretty much guaranteed to get A Girl.
 
#43 ·
Not true.
 
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