Re: Are capitalists always atheists?
I of course know about Weber's theory of a link between Capitalism and Calvinism (which was neither necessary nor sufficient; the author's own admition) and about the Catholic Church banning interest loan, which being a Catholic is a point in my favour. For me, catholicism is the true Christian religion (along with Orthodoxy that I respected).
The modern form of capitalism is the idea that the only the chairman of a company could get the profit of it. No, I don't believe in the virtue of it.
And yes, indeed, here on the Euro continent, in the traditionally Catholic world, it came up with the French Revolution of 1789, which was, indeed, an atheist revolution and influenced atheist thinkers who called themselves the Enlightenment (only Voltaire called himself a 'deist', but he hated religion with a passion).
Before the Revolution, in the strong Christian era, the workers could get their share of the profit of their company. This was stopped by two ignominious laws of the Revolution (the Loi d'Allarde, March 1791, which banned corporations and the Loi Le Chapelier, which banned coalitions and demonstrations), two laws that will be reinforced by Buonaparte (who was atheist to the bones !!).
The atheists from the young French Republic went on to massacre the Catholics who fought for their rights in Vendée. It was a true blood bath and then export their new order to the rest of Europe with Buonaparte and the Bavarians (the Corsican's allies) would strongly repress the Catholics in Tyrol.
The outcome of all that was a whole century of misery during which life expectancy plunged. And only in Christian circles could we find thinkers who would promote a true alternative for all this, namely employee share ownership, promoted late in the century by Pope Leo XIII and then in the 20th century, the closer to apply in it was a traditional Catholic general with the name Charles de Gaulle.
Also, the the Lord helps those who help themselves quote is not in the Bible and absolutely un-Christian.
The Communists did not believe in God, that's true. But they believe in Progress, just like the liberals (which in my view, means libertarians) and material pleasure. And in this respect they are the two faces of the same coin. The Bolsheviks were not anti-capitalists, they were state capitalists. Besides, in 1921, Lenin started the NEP, right? ("most equivocal and the wrongest of all the periods of the Soviet regime", said Pasternak). And the connivence between the Bolsheviks and Wall Street is a well established fact.
Last edited by Echoes; 10-17-2012 at 08:23 PM.