Tennis is entertainment - we are watching action at a distance, the players like you say are working hard and hardly care about what gets said about them on some forum- what we are doing here is mostly entertaining ourselves. It is serious business for the pros- not for us.
It is perfectly possible to ignore what you consider hate banter and no one will ever close your threads down if you want to indulge in serious discussion. Some people (like duong for example) do it relentlessly whether they find encouragement from the rest or not.
Trying to get a large,diverse group of people to conform to your idea of respect and positivity is a completely pointless task.
Also love how most of the people who responded in this thread exclude themselves as if they have no role whatsoever in how this forum shaped up.
I don't agree with you, it is not "perfectly possible" to ignore the pointless and relentless trolling/hating of many posters.
Very often, posts that started well are "hijacked" by such people. I've seen it several times. Of course, being a Ferrer fan, I visit mostly Ferrer-related topics and really, lately any Ferrer-related post ends up in stupid and "broken-record"-like conversations about "vultures" and "talentless mugs who beat more talented players" and so on.
Of course you can put people on your ignore list, that's what I did at first. But I don't like to ignore people's posts, and anyway, what happens is that other people don't, so the main focus moves from whatever the initial topic was to that childish bickering.
For instance, when someone like pusher-for-life rushes to create a new thread a fraction of a second after a Ferrer match finishes, just so he can bash him again and again with the same words... I don't think this should be tolerated. It's obvious trolling and it has no point.
And it's not only posts about Ferrer, I remember looking at threads about one of the big 4, it inevitably ends up in a battle of tards and haters. Any kind of interesting discussion gets drowned in nonsense and you can't even follow it anymore.
Of course, posts that are really technical will probably not be full of trolls, but I also enjoy simple discussions on a match and not only very specialised discussions which I can't always follow.
And to those who say "the people complaining are the ones doing it"... I don't feel I have been doing it. As I said, I do occasionally like to engage in debate. Yes I did defend Ferrer several times, but after a while, when haters and trolls can repeat the same arguments tirelessly no matter what you say, I see no point in engaging them anymore. And I refrain myself from doing so.
I also try not to post deliberately offensive posts about players other people love.
It's interesting how the initial question has derived from "negativity and violence" to "entertainment vs seriousness".
I ignored that one could find violence and negativity entertaining. In real life I rather thought that these things hurt people rather than entertain them
Actually I wondered about the opposite, that violence could be inherent to competitive tennis itself, I hadn't understood it was rather inherent to "entertainment".
That's the point. Yes, the Internet is a place where you are free from "real world" barriers, and it's a place when you can have fun and be silly. But there are a lot of ways to be funny and silly, without being a hater and turning every discussion into a trashing party.
Oh trust me I have been around internet forums before. This is just the worst of the worst, not kidding. Been around American football forums that are nicer then this place
I have also been around a lot of forums. Forums about movies, actors, sports, even politics. Registering on a forum is literally the first thing I did when I got my first Internet subscription (that must have been in 1999... wow!
And really, I think it's absolutely untrue that all forums on the Internet are as negative as this one. Maybe because it's a bigger forum, I don't know.