Firstly thanks so much to everyone here, much appreciated.
Jase - if you are that shy how about asking the 2 girls to bring her over to strike up a conversation? Have them introduce the two of you and see what happens.
That's a good way, but then wouldn't she feel awkward that I needed them for us 2 to meet?
Li Ching Yuen explained it well, I will add to his quality advice.
Chances are, since her friends have been trying to hook you up all year, that she likes you too. You know that feeling you get when you see her? Channel it. Use it to your advantage. She feels it too.
I feel like she doesn't even know me at all though, but yes I'll try to use it to my advantage.
It doesn't matter so much what you talk about, as how you say it. If you speak in an audible voice, deep, confident, but not trying too hard, slowly, and enunciate words, look into her eyes, you could be talking about the weather and she'll be turned on.
I've never been confident my whole life though, but I mean now would be a good time to start.
Then, take it from there. Ask about her, figure out what she's all about, and see if there is a future there. If she is cool, you wanna hang out, or if she's crazy and you need to run away
I'm sure she's not crazy, but even just having her as a friend would make me feel better.
I'm a nice guy too (despite however I might seem in here).
You seem nice.
The truth about being nice and just being shy and timid is that it's pretty big difference. A lot of younger folks just resort to be quiet and nice only because it's their only choice(again this is a personal thing), resulted either from the environment they grew up in, the way they grew up or just their character that hasn't had any experience to mature a bit. It's ok, it's very common.
And it can change voluntarily or simply life will do that for you sooner or later.
Well it's weird because around certain groups of people I'll either be really nice or an asshole, just depends on who they are. But it just seems assholes are the ones who get the girls.
Don't think of her as the girl you're mad over, just do a bit of an imagination exercise where she "drops" down to your level, almost where your sister might be (bad example, but you get the idea), do this to get yourself out of that day dreaming state and just plant your feet on the ground and get to the reality of it, which so far is only you "sort of" asking about her to some friends and posting a thread about it on a random internet forum. Think about it, is this your best effort?
Will do that then, and well I'm far too scared of doing anything else.
The tricks are as plain as it gets, get in contact with her, preferably in real life then maybe start off some sort of platonic relationship before you ask her out, see how she sees you, she might indicate you some signs towards liking you, doesn't have to be anything striking either. Students are students man, you're on the same level, which is a precious thing, shitloads of stuff to talk about, age-related stuff and whatever else...
This is not hard, want to imagine having to ask a girl that's 12 years older than you in a public setting? You have it easy, pal.
Never really thought of it that way, guess it could be far worse, but now I will.
Deep breaths and an injection of a more active personality and you'll be fine.
Yeah I definitely need a more active personality, going to hope I have that tomorrow.
You just need to remember, she is just another person. You don't know her, she doesn't know you. She will probably be flattered that you want to talk to her. Take your chances.
Never thought of this either, will think like that.