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Study: Homophobia is linked to gay desires.

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Homophobes Might Be Secretly Attracted To People Of The Same Sex

Homophobes are a group of people who have a negative feeling towards homosexuality, but a group of researchers' claims that homophobes are more attracted to the same sex.

Researchers from the University of Rochester, the University of Essex and the University of California in Santa Barbara have discovered that homophobes are actually attracted to the same sex but they are not admitting it because they grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires. They found this when they conducted a series of psychology studies.

Researchers claim that people who claim themselves as straight and people who hate homosexuality are actually attracted to the same sex. They believe that homosexual people remind them of similar tendencies within themselves

"Individuals who identify as straight but in psychological tests show a strong attraction to the same sex may be threatened by gays and lesbians because homosexuals remind them of similar tendencies within themselves," said Netta Weinstein, a lecturer at the University of Essex, in a statement.

Researchers had conducted four separate experiments in the United States and Germany, with each study involving an average of 160 college students. To explore participants' explicit and implicit sexual attraction, the researchers measured the discrepancies between what people say about their sexual orientation and how they react during a split-second timed task.

During the experiment, students were shown words and pictures on a computer screen and asked to put these in "gay" or "straight" categories. Before each of the 50 trials, participants were subliminally primed with either the word "me" or "others" flashed on the screen for 35 milliseconds. They were then shown the words "gay," "straight," "homosexual," and "heterosexual" as well as pictures of straight and gay couples, and the computer tracked precisely their response times. A faster association of "me" with "gay" and a slower association of "me" with "straight" indicated an implicit gay orientation.

A second experiment, in which subjects were free to browse same-sex or opposite-sex photos, provided an additional measure of implicit sexual attraction.

Through a series of questionnaires, participants also reported on the type of parenting they experienced growing up, from authoritarian to democratic. Students were asked to agree or disagree with statements like: "I felt controlled and pressured in certain ways," and "I felt free to be who I am." For gauging the level of homophobia in a household, subjects responded to items like: "It would be upsetting for my mom to find out she was alone with a lesbian" or "My dad avoids gay men whenever possible."

Finally, the researcher measured participants' level of homophobia - both overt expressed in questionnaires on social policy and beliefs, and implicit, as revealed in word-completion tasks. In the latter, students wrote down the first three words that came to mind, for example for the prompt "k i _ _". The study tracked the increase in the amount of aggressive words elicited after subliminally priming subjects with the word "gay" for 35 milliseconds.

Across all the studies, participants with supportive and accepting parents were more in touch with their implicit sexual orientation, while participants from authoritarian homes revealed the most discrepancy between explicit and implicit attraction.

Researchers found that homophobic people are actually attracted to the same sex. They claim that these individuals risk losing the love and approval of their parents if they admit to same sex attractions, so many people deny or repress that part of them.

"In a predominately heterosexual society, 'know thyself' can be a challenge for many gay individuals. But in controlling and homophobic homes, embracing a minority sexual orientation can be terrifying," said Weinstein.

The research also sheds light on high profile cases in which anti-gay public figures are caught engaging in same-sex sexual acts. The authors write that this dynamic of inner conflict may be reflected in such examples as Ted Haggard, the evangelical preacher who opposed gay marriage but was exposed in a gay sex scandal in 2006, and Glenn Murphy, Jr, former chairman of the Young Republican National Federation and vocal opponent of gay marriage, who was accused of sexually assaulting a 22-year-old man in 2007.

"This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself, 'Why?'" says William Ryan, professor at the University of California in Santa Barbara. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to self-reflection."
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Re: Study: Homophobia is linked to gay desires.

We in the gay community know this already. I've fucked a few homophobes, most of them tending to be bottoms. And I'm talking about loud bottoms. But a lot of straight people will deny this, even when GAY PEOPLE will tell them how often this works out as true.

Now, does this mean all homophobes are gay? No. Absolutely not. It just means that homophobia is, at it's base level, connected to, at the very least, an insecurity in ones' sexuality. INSECURITY. And yes, that means countries in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, East Asia, Africa. Where homosexuality is RAMPANT on the down-low. Homosexuality in these countries, ESPECIALLY Eastern Europe and the Middle East, is both used for gain and used as a weapon to discriminate. And it's all because of insecurity and power. Homophobia is all about insecurity and insecurity is a fear based trait. Which is why homophobia is a personality disorder, it's irrational fear.

Also, to people who say "what about religion" or "what about people who are raised to be homophobic". EVERYONE is raised in a homophobic culture to some extent. There is no culture that is free from homophobia, yet there are BILLIONS of individuals in these cultures who are free from this bigotry. So that doesn't apply here. There comes a time and point where that excuse ends.

Lastly, one can be anti-gay and not homophobic, but being anti-gay is simply a moral failure. Aliomeh is a prime example of that. I don't think he's homophobic. He's just a BIGOT. And some people, they are just like that, they are simply bigoted assholes.

Anyway, discuss.
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Not homophobic but a lot of people are just being uncomfortable around gays, it's not personal, just a matter of being in a unfamiliar situation. On the other end there are also flaws in that the "community" often takes it too serious.

On the bright side, this is a transitional period, it'll get better for you down the road.
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Not homophobic but a lot of people are just being uncomfortable around gays, it's not personal, just a matter of being in a unfamiliar situation. On the other end there are also flaws in that the "community" often takes it too serious.
Your last sentence is very true, but it is homophobia. The whole unfamiliar thing, yeah, it works to a certain extent. Although that alone is irrational. Because to be uncomfortable around gay people is to basically declare gay people as a different species. It's like.............no-one declares discomfort around vegetarians. No-one says, I am uncomfortable around them. You may think they're weird but discomfort? No-one says this about blonds. I'm uncomfortable around them, because of their hair.

Being uncomfortable in a different culture is one thing. But discomfort with a human being for something you can't even see is way different. You can't see gay unless someone basically displays it, so how can a person be uncomfortable unless they tell themselves they will be? Or their minds are damaged to the point any basic relations with gay people causes anxiety?

That's why homophobia is seen as a personality disorder, though. The anxiety factor.

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It's already getting better!

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You can bet Djokovic's mom just screamed "Another king is dead" right about now - in the remotest corner - of her bathroom - followed by "The other one is buried." (from tennisplanet.me, following Madrid 2011 Djokovic d. Nadal 7-5 6-4)
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Of course we knew resident bigot Aliomeh would make an appearance. I actually didn't intent to bait him, but knew in the back of my mind he could not NOT come here. Because, like all bigots, they are desperate to not only flaunt their bigotry but justify it.
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Of course we knew resident bigot Aliomeh would make an appearance. I actually didn't intent to bait him, but knew in the back of my mind he could not NOT come here. Because, like all bigots, they are desperate to not only flaunt their bigotry but justify it.

Nole fan: "...most Fedtards seem to be very rabid and rude." (I agree 100%)

You can bet Djokovic's mom just screamed "Another king is dead" right about now - in the remotest corner - of her bathroom - followed by "The other one is buried." (from tennisplanet.me, following Madrid 2011 Djokovic d. Nadal 7-5 6-4)
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I am very unconfortable around vegetarians and people that defend animals too much sometimes

Also with atheists rationalistics and ceptics like Hutchins and Dawkins.

To fans of Nadal I got used to.

I also dont like people with bad taste with music, they made me feel very unconfortable.

I think that what can be different from our ideas or way to live life its normal for people to feel unconfortable and the challenge is to know how to live with the different eh.
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Re: Study: Homophobia is linked to gay desires.

what about the other side of the ledger filo v?

what about homophobic women? would their homophobia be linked in some way to gay desires also?


in other words, are the differences significant with homophobic women? also how reliable are these studies?

men and women are a world apart as we all know.


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I am very unconfortable around vegetarians and people that defend animals too much sometimes


I'm sort of like, in that whole crowd. I'm basically a stereotypical alternative city-slicker liberal type. But don't worry, I'm not a fanatic about vegetarianism nor pet safety and care (although I am totally a supporter of both since both are hugely important )

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True, but ideas are different than actually being uncomfortable with a persons' entire being. I understand being uncomfortable with people who have different life values, different beliefs, are from different cultures. But at the end of the day, we're all different to some degree yet we all also understand to treat others the way you want to be treated. Being uncomfortable with an individuals' actions is way different than having discomfort with what they are immutably.
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what about the other side of the ledger filo v?

what about homophobic women? would their homophobia be linked in some way to gay desires also?


in other words, are the differences significant with homophobic women?

men and women are a world apart as we all know.
Yes, it applies. This particular study was done with both males and females involved. Women in general tend to be less homophobic. Their homophobia tends to be applied differently, too. That's just based on personal experience. But yeah, there are plenty of anti-gay closeted lesbians around. In fact one of them, who is a legislator, was just outed recently (actually came out herself, before she was about to be outed).
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Researchers from the University of Rochester, the University of Essex and the University of California in Santa Barbara have discovered that homophobes are actually attracted to the same sex but they are not admitting it because they grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires. They found this when they conducted a series of psychology studies.
If that was changed to ''US evangelical homophobes are actually attracted to the same sex............'', then I think the statistics are solid.

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