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Even if Paul was a massive racist he would still be significantly preferable to every other candidate.
I doubt he is a massive racist. Nevertheless back then he was looking for votes by pandering to the racists who were preparing for the coming race wars in America.

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Obama is the 4th greatest President.

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I doubt he is a massive racist. Nevertheless back then he was looking for votes by pandering to the racists who were preparing for the coming race wars in America.
one of the first times i agree with you.

the racist letters aren't a surprise to me considering his long history record of pandering to rednecks all over the nation. after all, he did pull out this little gem in his prior failed campaign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4

still, it's funny to say it but the fact is that a semi libertarian racist clown would be a massive improvement over the other candidates. the USA really is in sad state.

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still, it's funny to say it but the fact is that a semi libertarian racist clown would be a massive improvement over the other candidates. the USA really is in sad state.
Dream on. The reality is that whoever is president hardly matters. The US is not a nanny nation.

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the racist letters aren't a surprise to me considering his long history record of pandering to rednecks all over the nation. after all, he did pull out this little gem in his prior failed campaign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4
Why did you pick a perfectly reasonable ad? If you think being opposed to open borders is a ''little gem'', then give me some examples of nations that the US should try to copy in its immigration policy.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70833.html

Gingrich fails to qualify for Va. primary ballot
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It doesn't really matter, he was toast before he started running.
The only question left in this race is if Ron Paul will be able to end second and win a few primaries along the way.

If Paul wins Iowa, it will be so much fun to see the media going into a tailspin asking if he could win the whole thing
(before Romney crushes him due to superior electability and organization).
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he didn't walk it seems...

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Today when CNN returned to the story, he walked out of the interview.

He is this week's Herman Cain.
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now i know where your sources are buddy

media edit job getting carved the fuck up online.. class...

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[YOUTUBE]SMHBEAeNa-c[/YOUTUBE]

The guy's actually making sense. Scary.
good stuff

doubt he can make it to office, "they" won't let him
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now i know where your sources are buddy

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I don't know what you are talking about. I read it in the National Post.

Edit: Oh, I see, you mean the the video above. To me it looks like he walked out after being unable to answer the questions without looking flustered and nervous. "I read some of them......'' ''I never read them.......'' '' What do you mean I made money?.............''

Claiming that he never knew what was written in his newsletter, under his byline, is a lose/lose proposition for him. Either he agreed with what was written or he had no idea what his correspondents were writing in his name.

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chances are it was the latter. out of all the candidates paul is probably the least racist. he seems like the only stand-up guy left in the field, republican or democrat. why are you making such a fuss about this? you should be one of the biggest fanboys, your political opinions are pretty much in line with his.
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chances are it was the latter. out of all the candidates paul is probably the least racist. he seems like the only stand-up guy left in the field, republican or democrat. why are you making such a fuss about this? you should be one of the biggest fanboys, your political opinions are pretty much in line with his.
The US definition of libertarianism (fiscal conservative, social liberal) would certainly fit me, but I felt let down that Paul's past is far from exemplary. I can not easily accept that he published a newsletter for 10 years that appealed to religious extremists and white supremacists and thinks it is OK now to just say the newsletter had nothing to do with any of his views.

I think it a fair conclusion that everything he says today is just calculated to appeal to a new fan base, now that his old fan base has found other candidates. Yet you are suggesting that the candidate with what appears to be the most racist record is the least racist in the field. I don't see how that follows.

EDIT: I just googled "The Story Behind Ron Paul's Racist Newsletters'' at theatlantic.com. It says just what I was trying to say above. Although it might be more forgiving than me.

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I think it a fair conclusion that everything he says today is just calculated to appeal to a new fan base, now that his old fan base has found other candidates. Yet you are suggesting that the candidate with what appears to be the most racist record is the least racist in the field. I don't see how that follows.
it's a gut feeling. i'm very sure you're feeling the same way. gingrich, perry, bachmann, santorum, less racist than paul? nah, come on.
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anyway, only 7 more days to go: the iowa caucus is upon us.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-...tv-108756.html

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