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Christians and Catholics should get out of the West too, then?
as much as aloimeh and his kind would like us to believe otherwise, i got to insist with the premise that Catholics are Christians too

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Christians and Catholics should get out of the West too, then?
I think he meant that people should stay in the countries they are born in if they are not willing to adapt to countries they may move to.

Not that I am supporting his idea.

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...s-in-iowa.html

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the old man easily outdistancing the rest of the field...
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Kierkegaard explained it first.

The two thinkers have a very different approach to the matter, and I am not so much interested in who said it "first" as in who said it in a way that is likely to grab more people's attention.

Nietzsche is not only more popular than Kierkegaard among the younger generation, he is also (emphatically) not a theist, and so his claims about the destructive results of the "death of God" are less likely to be dismissed as the biased presumptions of an interested party.

But please accept my congratulations for your feeble attempt at one-upmanship.

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the old man easily outdistancing the rest of the field...
Yep, Ron Paul finally getting some decent results.
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Paul's fans tend to appear in mass at these straw polls, sadly don't read much into it.

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just got back from the movies and i gotta say while i did like "the ides of march", some things didn't add up. major plot holes, implausible storyline etc.
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Paul's fans tend to appear in mass at these straw polls, sadly don't read much into it.
If they also appear in mass at the elections, good enough

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Paul's fans tend to appear in mass at these straw polls, sadly don't read much into it.
That wasn't a straw poll. Public Policy Polling is a legit polling company that puts a lot of effort into attempting to scientifically replicate the applicable electorate in its samples, although primary caucuses are notoriously difficult to predict. Paul is a serious contender and according to Intrade currently has the best odds to win Iowa, which would likely give him a boost in New Hampshire, where he's currently polling second:

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventClassId=19
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The publicity coming out on the racist newsletters he used to publish has killed his chances.

Yesterday he told Wolf Blitzer that although he was the publisher of the newsletter which made lots of money, the content of the newsletter had nothing to do with him.
Today when CNN returned to the story, he walked out of the interview.

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just got back from the movies and i gotta say while i did like "the ides of march", some things didn't add up. major plot holes, implausible storyline etc.
I thought it was going to be a political thriller, but politics was just the setting, not the theme. The Descendants was not great either, but Hollywood can see no wrong with Clooney. He needs to be at the awards for the TV ratings, thus all the nominations will keep coming.

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The publicity coming out on the racist newsletters he used to publish has killed his chances.

Yesterday he told Wolf Blitzer that although he was the publisher of the newsletter which made lots of money, the content of the newsletter had nothing to do with him.
Today when CNN returned to the story, he walked out of the interview.

He is this week's Herman Cain.
i think it is a pretty thin argument... to have to dig so deep and so far back to get any dirt on paul is pretty poor and anyone with half a brain knows that it's impossible for raging libertarians to hold any sort of racial line other than equality amongst the individual people of the state... paul is not going away... the media think they have found something, but it won't stick...

gingrinch's change of opinion depending on the forecast of his bank account is another thing entirely...

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i think it is a pretty thin argument... to have to dig so deep and so far back to get any dirt on paul is pretty poor and anyone with half a brain knows that it's impossible for raging libertarians to hold any sort of racial line other than equality amongst the individual people of the state...
So the fact that these things were published in his newsletter under his name does not necessarily mean it was something he believed? Then why should we accept that what he says today is something he believes?
From what you wrote above it seems the logical conclusion to be drawn is that he is not a libertarian.

Or as someone said, if his own newsletter was publishing racist articles in his name and he did not know it, then he is not competent to be president.

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