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Well dang. Contrasted to recent events of scores of innocent people dying in horrible fashion, my sympathy for a celebrity death ranges somewhere between zero and zero.
Why did you even have to go down that route?

More people die every day in Somalia and various other countries in Africa. People in Iraq and other troubled countries are bombed and killed almost on a daily basis. They are as much as innocent as those massacred in Norway. Why do I not see you give a damn about them? Is it because it's European country? Or perhaps it's become daily news to hear of bombed trucks there-- "oh it's nothing, just the norm."?

If your post implies that the higher the number of deaths the more significant they are, then you are really contradicting yourself here.

Some people will be more sad for the loss of Winehouse because as a singer, she's more close to them through her music, than 100 strangers wounded/dead.

There's nothing wrong in mourning the death of Amy Winehouse along with the victims of Norway.

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well said. I didn't know her and was not a fan, but I feel pity more than omg well she deserved it, or something like that.

then again I get annoyed when people talk that same way about suicide.
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suicide is the most selfish thing one can do. run away and leave a mess for others to clear.
If you'd like to keep on believing that, I truly hope you'll never ever get to deal with a friend of yours suffering a genuine depression.
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If you'd like to keep on believing that, I truly hope you'll never ever get to deal with a friend of yours suffering a genuine depression.
Blessed are the ignorant. Indeed.
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suicide is the most selfish thing one can do. run away and leave a mess for others to clear.
Is it any more messy than dying?

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suicide is the most selfish thing one can do. run away and leave a mess for others to clear.
Nobody, I mean nobody, should take their own life.
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Nobody, I mean nobody, should take their own life.
Its difficult to tell, how about those who suffered for ages with illness, lived with pain every day and those who can only lie on bed and do nothing, how can we blame them? The reason they chose to kill themselves may not be wanting to leave mess for others, but quite the opposite, they don't want to be burdens for others

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Its difficult to tell, how about those who suffered for ages with illness, lived with pain every day and those who can only lie on bed and do nothing, how can we blame them? The reason they chose to kill themselves may not be wanting to leave mess for others, but quite the opposite, they don't want to be burdens for others

Mimi. You are a compassionate person.

Spend some time talking to people who have had suicide attempts that were foiled by the merest chance, and you may get some understanding about the pain that drove them to the desperate act.

Also why shouldn't elderly people and those who suffer from terminal disease get to decide when they want to die and die humanely and with dignity rather than suffering with bedsores and endless indignity and terrible pain?
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Its difficult to tell, how about those who suffered for ages with illness, lived with pain every day and those who can only lie on bed and do nothing, how can we blame them? The reason they chose to kill themselves may not be wanting to leave mess for others, but quite the opposite, they don't want to be burdens for others
Ignorant people automatically assume that physical pain is worse than mental pain. You sound like a dilettante talking about this.

I truly hope, Mimi, that you never understand just how much mental pain somebody has to be in to truly consider taking his or her own life. I wouldn't wish that kind of existence on anybody any more than I would wish terminal physical illness on anybody.
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suicide is the most selfish thing one can do. run away and leave a mess for others to clear.
you have no clue what you're talking about.

i really pity you.
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Ignorant people automatically assume that physical pain is worse than mental pain. You sound like a dilettante talking about this.

I truly hope, Mimi, that you never understand just how much mental pain somebody has to be in to truly consider taking his or her own life. I wouldn't wish that kind of existence on anybody any more than I would wish terminal physical illness on anybody.
i think you got me wrong, i mentioned about people having physical pain cannot be blamed for wanting to kill themselves, that does not mean I think physical pain is worst than mental pain, and that people with mental pain cannot be forgiven for wanting to kill themselves

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Mimi. You are a compassionate person.

Spend some time talking to people who have had suicide attempts that were foiled by the merest chance, and you may get some understanding about the pain that drove them to the desperate act.

Also why shouldn't elderly people and those who suffer from terminal disease get to decide when they want to die and die humanely and with dignity rather than suffering with bedsores and endless indignity and terrible pain?
I agreed with you, i also wanted to die with dignity and not on conditions that i cannot even go to toilets or take a shower

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I really don't think that the concept of suicide should be there for people to judge, you can have your own opinion of it, but you can't talk for someone else or their actions unless you can directly influence it in some way.


I still find it hard to believe about Amy, I never stopped having hope for her. Such a brilliant singer, made me have faith in modern music again. I was just listening to BtB two weeks ago and wondering what the third album will be like.
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