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*SPOILERS* Jaime's character also evolves towards something rather positive. By the end of book 1 you hate him with a passion, but now, he has become one of my favourite characters. He is very handsome, he is clever, and once you stop seeing him as "the evil Kingslayer" and you start seeing things from his own point of view, he is not really a bad person. He is quite ruthless when fighting his enemies and defending his own, that's true, but none of the characters in the books are 100% good.
Don't like Jaime's new found sainthood at all. Wish these characters were all black and white so one can enjoy it when they fall (the boy king being top of the list) and feel profound sadness when they fall (Ned Stark). These shades of grey complicate things
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Don't like Jaime's new found sainthood at all. Wish these characters were all black and white so one can enjoy it when they fall (the boy king being top of the list) and feel profound sadness when they fall (Ned Stark). These shades of grey complicate things
It's strange that you should love Game of Thrones because if there's one thing to love about these series, it is the complete absence of black-and-white characters (apart from maybe Joffrey... and the bastard of Bolton I guess).

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Personally, I don't think Jaime becomes a "saint" at all, I only think that from the moment when he starts being a POV character, you begin to see him in a totally new light. It's not that he suddenly goes from "bad" to "good", it's just that the perspective changes, both on his future acts, and on his past acts. Then, of course, it's true that he does change, but I don't think he becomes "better", he only becomes more clever and stop being manipulated by other people. This I like very much.

In the same way, as soon as characters like Jaime (or later, Cersei) become POV characters, you stop seeing Ned as a saint, because suddenly you see his actions from the adverse point of view. I think that's one of the most fascinating aspects of the books.
Who knows if even Joffrey would have become somewhat likeable if he had been given some POV chapters as well?

Maybe those things appeal to me, because they reflect so well how, in reality, communities with different points of view will construct diametrically opposed visions of the same historical event.
You can see the same phenomenon in GoT, for instance, in relation to the "Kingslayer" nickname.
The Starks and many others see Jaime's killing of the Mad King as a vile act of treason: he killed the man he was sworn to protect. However, from Jaime's point of view, this is totally unfair: as far as he's concerned, he saved the people of King's Landing from the Mad King's folly and therefore should be regarded as a hero. And the others who look at him with disgust are just hypocrites, since they were very happy that he'd killed Aerys but pretended to be appalled...

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Does anyone have a clue what accent they speak?

i loved the ep, no need to repet what u all said i totally agree

i miss jamie..i hope to see king Jeoffrey out of the Throne

i didnt read the books but i doubt the Starks will ever be united again..

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Speaking of good-evil, I find it hilarious how we later come to be better introduced to some characters in the Iron Island, were the moral code is so different that beeing good means something entirely else, kind of like among the Dothraki really. Khal Drogo and Victarion are heroes of their people and Victarion is very moral and religous that does horrible things because it is the right thing to do among Iron Islanders. Viking and mongol primitive moral code, the strong taking from the weak and so on and they have their own definition of evil (more like beeing unrespectful to traditions, beeing sneaky/stabbing in the back). Kind of like watching the series Vikings, were the heroes raid and kill innocent people.

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Great show. Heard the books are even better. I might give them a go. I don't enjoy reading but there are exceptions and this might be one such case.
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That Margeary is one smartass bitch, boy did she play to Jeoffrey's ego and sadistic sexuality in that scene in episode 2.

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Diana Rigg as the Queen of Thorns stole the show this week.
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Does anyone have a clue what accent they speak?

i loved the ep, no need to repet what u all said i totally agree

i miss jamie..i hope to see king Jeoffrey out of the Throne

i didnt read the books but i doubt the Starks will ever be united again..

Most of the actors on the show are British . Rule, Britannia .
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Don't like Jaime's new found sainthood at all. Wish these characters were all black and white so one can enjoy it when they fall (the boy king being top of the list) and feel profound sadness when they fall (Ned Stark). These shades of grey complicate things
did you guys forget that he had incest with his sister, threw that poor boy down the tower and made him a cripple,killed one of his own family to try to escape and the king yeah that wasn't too bad. the guy is just a serial killer and i...is it allowed to wish for death for these characters ? i hate the lannisters.

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What an episode

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Just got both season one and season two for my birthday!!!

I'm tempted to skip everything in life and watch GOT

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anyone saw the ep this week?

i cant believe it...just cant

how on earth the show will go on without jamie having a hand????

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I knew this would be the cliffhanger . And I don't like how they corrupted one of the few genuine innocent personalities from the book .


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anyone saw the ep this week?

i cant believe it...just cant

how on earth the show will go on without jamie having a hand????
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