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Well, yes they can, countries that are light years ahead economically and human rights wise should be used as a benchmark for how things should work.

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The problem is that abraxas believes that countries that are light years ahead economically are to be condemned for being capitalist - and ideology trumps fact in the socialist mentality.

He also seems to believe that everyone being equally miserable is preferable than having the right to enrich yourself. Then it seems, everyone can equally bitch about capitalist wealth.

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Well, yes they can, countries that are light years ahead economically and human rights wise should be used as a benchmark for how things should work.
And which countries are that? The ones that have everything clean with train running on time at home but meddle in other countries' affairs in order to get an economic gain for their states or their cronies' multinational companies? I gently advise you to get off your high horse for a second and take a good look at how things work.

As for the rest of your post, Europe isn't better or worse than, say, Africa. They're simply different.

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The problem is that abraxas believes that countries that are light years ahead economically are to be condemned for being capitalist - and ideology trumps fact in the socialist mentality.

He also seems to believe that everyone being equally miserable is preferable than having the right to enrich yourself. Then it seems, everyone can equally bitch about capitalist wealth.
Nice couple of common places, going there, BH. I see how they've gotten quite popular over the years.

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What are common places?

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As for the rest of your post, Europe isn't better or worse than, say, Africa. They're simply different.

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So you would say that the average Swiss guy does not live better than the average Ugandan guy, just "differently"?

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I found commonplace all right, but "common places" is not quite the same thing, grammatically speaking. I will use the phrases in a sentence.

With their inevitable cold-sweat nightmares before playing Rafael at Roland Garros, Federer and Djokovic had found a common place. But in truth, such nightmares are commonplace among all professional tennis players.

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So you would say that the average Swiss guy does not live better than the average Ugandan guy, just "differently"?
I don't know. Ask him. Also ask him what HE understands for "living better".

Many times I have seen how people who live in what westerners would describe as poor conditions think of themselves as happy persons. It ain't black and white.

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I don't know. Ask him. Also ask him what HE understands for "living better".

Many times I have seen how people who live in what westerners would describe as poor conditions think of themselves as happy persons. It ain't black and white.
There is a bit of truth in that, but a very little bit. I was always amazed at how Haitians could be smiling in such utter poverty. But although they had been conditioned to accept their lot and made the best of it, I am fairly certain that they all recognized there was something better, just not available to them.
I guess that life in Haiti was so miserable that the government did not even try to convince them that they were living the dream.
The Cuban government on the other hand..................ok, let's not go there.

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Only that they feel happy, because they don't know what happy is.

I'm pretty sure there are countries where when one dies at 55 they go at the funeral "well, he had a good long life", coz the expectancy is 50...

Do we prefer to have these people blind and uneducated, coz they feel happy about it?

Wouldn't they be unhappy to understand it's all been BS and noone has told them the crap they eat, or the way they live is just killing them and they could have had a longer, better life with just a bit of education?


Normally occidentals would let them be uneducated and happy the way they are, coz it's also much easier to control them, take advantage of their natural resources (here chief, i give you this box of magic fire sticks, you give me 10 horses and you're making a deal...) and they don't bother the World much, but usually there is a bunch of "smart" one who by the force of explaining their own uneducated people that they are the power, they are invincible and they can make shit happen, at one point they start believe in themselves and start doing shit around their yard, which is the main problem for the rest.

And it's what inevitably happens. Always.

So uneducated people create greedy and delusional leaders who'd start wars and try to invade, or make big scale massacres, which is smth to prevent.

And that's what happens.

If those people under them were educated, there won't be greedy multinationals that get their resources after liberating them, coz the locals would have their own companies to do that and wouldn't need liberation.

That's what will be in 200 years, but it's a long way to go. Too many brainless radicals to support their own misery..

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In the Guardian interview, Johansson hits back at Oxfam, claiming, “for a non-governmental organization to be supporting something that’s supporting a political cause … there’s something that feels not right about that to me.”
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Poor decision and an even poorer explanation to take it. This won't help a lot to get rid of the stereotype about blondes.

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Poor decision and an even poorer explanation to take it. This won't help a lot to get rid of the stereotype about blondes.
Maybe it has more to do with the fact she is Jewish.
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Probably so, but if that's the reason she should come out in the open as an Israel supporter because of the shared ethnicity between her and Israel, which actually defines itself as a "Jewish State".

Then again, I suppose the idea of ethnicity might be too tribal for her to admit it.

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The Israel situation is a complicated one

On the one hand you have Israeli settlements on land recognised by the UN as belonging to palestine, there is no justification for this
The occupied territories are in a state of apartheid
This deserves to be criticised

On the other hand, within Israel you have the only shining light in the Middle East
Arabs within Israel are treated much better
There is a truly free press
Women and gays are given real rights, and freedoms

Other middle eastern countries are killing gays, fucking barbaric
Women are human cattle in any sharia law country
Apostasy is met with murder

It's a really backwards stone age mentality that has really stopped the Arab nations from socially evolving for a thousand years

If Israel wasn't treating the Palestinians the way it does I would champion what it has done for women, gays, human rights etc

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The hunger strike — the longest in Palestinian history, according to Addameer — was launched on 24 April by 120 Palestinians arbitrarily held by Israel without charge or trial, a widely condemned practice known as administrative detention. According to Reuters, the number of prisoners participating in the hunger strike has risen to approximately three hundred.

Hospitalized prisoners told Addameer’s lawyers that the doctors threatened to “introduce food to the body through the nose into the stomach without taking consent, after shackling [them].”

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