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Infidelity : Healthy or Not

its not that life is so short. its just that we are all dead for so bloody long.

why must you or anyone suffer if trapped in an unhealthy and stale and relationship that keeps you from exploring, discovering, and growing from all that the world has to offer.

its just not that simple to walk away or to end relationships. people, on the average, do not know where to even begin to try to end a hopeless situation they might find themselves in.

others are just versatile and have more than enough vitality to indulge in their subjective propensities. it keeps them going. its just human nature. some do prefer to live on the edge anyway. that is what makes them who they are and yet there must be something still missing from their lives so they choose to exercise their options.

i dont want to throw any numbers around but with 1/2 to 2/3 of the marriages ending in divorces in some parts of the western world, you can bet your last dollar that a lot of folks are trapped in unhealthy situations at one time or another.

infidelity may just be the first step to lessen the hardships of an unhealthy relationship. it can also be a first step to freedom which may open the doors to all that the world has to offer. why not go after what is rightfully yours before time runs out. you know that all is fleeting and all must end.

the floor is yours. discuss the pros and cons of infidelity? is it healthy within the context of such a short life and with opportunities accordingly fleeting?

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its not that life is so short. its just that we are all dead for so bloody long.

why must you or anyone suffer if trapped in an unhealthy and stale and relationship that keeps you from exploring, discovering, and growing from all that the world has to offer.

its just not that simple to walk away or to end relationships. people, on the average, do not know where to even begin to try to end a hopeless situation they might find themselves in.

others are just versatile and have more than enough vitality to indulge in their subjective propensities. it keeps them going. its just human nature. some do prefer to live on the edge anyway. that is what makes them who they are and yet there must be something still missing from their lives so they choose to exercise their options.

i dont want to throw any numbers around but with 1/2 to 2/3 of the marriages ending in divorces in some parts of the western world, you can bet your last dollar that a lot of folks are trapped in unhealthy situations at one time or another.

infidelity may just be the first step to lessen the hardships of an unhealthy relationship. it can also be a first step to freedom which may open the doors to all that the world has to offer. why not go after what is rightfully yours before time runs out. you know that all is fleeting and all must end.

the floor is yours. discuss the pros and cons of infidelity? is it healthy within the context of such a short life and with opportunities accordingly fleeting?
A better question: Is it right?

It is not.
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that's why people should have the option of divorce, I mean religiously, and also marrying more than one, it's only compatible with men nature, well most of men anyway.

guess Sharia law isn't that bad afterall!!

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that's why people should have the option of divorce, I mean religiously, and also marrying more than one, it's only compatible with men nature, well most of men anyway.

guess Sharia law isn't that bad afterall!!
Disgusting. Sharia is so biased against women it sickens me. A bunch of pervs writing laws to suit their lusts.
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that's why people should have the option of divorce, I mean religiously, and also marrying more than one, it's only compatible with men nature, well most of men anyway.

guess Sharia law isn't that bad afterall!!

you bring up an interesting point habs. out in california they are experimenting with marriages with "renewable options". it is very much like a business contract.

at the end of the each term--however long it happens to be and it may just 1 year--both parties sit down and discuss if their individual and repective needs are being met and if the terms of the relationships are being managed in an optimal fashion.

that is the direction some of western world may have to go eventually. otherwise with 1/2 to 2/3 of the marriages ending up in divorces, there are a lot of unhappy people out trhere and many of them do consider infidelity as an option.

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Disgusting. Sharia is so biased against women it sickens me. A bunch of pervs writing laws to suit their lusts.
your Christian view of marriage isn't much more functional, it's basically dysfunctional and countless people legally divorce with complete disregard to what church says, sticking two individuals eternally together is against human nature.

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A better question: Is it right?

It is not.

so it is right to be miserable, unhappy, and deprive yourself of much growth as a person? and also right to deny yourself of all that the world has to offer.

what is the ultimate end in life old sport? by most accounts, its happiness that is the ultimate end to which everything else is merely means.

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your Christian view of marriage isn't much more functional, it's basically dysfunctional and countless people legally divorce with complete disregard to what church says, sticking two individuals eternally together is against human nature.

aloimeh is my friend and i obviously mean no disrespect for him but i am going to have to agree with habs here.

if it leads to a unhealthy situation--mentally, physically, and spiritually-- that also deprives these 2 individuals of any growth as a human beings then other options may need to be exercised.

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aloimeh is my friend and i obviously mean no disrespect for him but i am going to have to agree with habs here.

if it leads to a unhealthy situation--mentally, physically, and spiritually-- that also deprives these 2 individuals of any growth as a human beings then other options may need to be exercised.
those options must not include infidelity though, if you want to cheat on your wife divorce her first and then do what you want, that's the right thing to do in my opinion.

and same goes with women and their husbands naturally, the bond of marriage is to be respected.

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those options must not include infidelity though, if you want to cheat on your wife divorce her first and then do what you want, that's the right thing to do in my opinion.

and same goes with women and their husbands naturally, the bond of marriage is to be respected.
habs it is what it is. that option is being exercised very heavily in the west.

it is very much in place. now what i am asking people is to determine if this option is "healthy" or "not".

all the evidence and the research says that it is healthy in countless ways. what do the people of MTF say?

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habs it is what it is. that option is being exercised very heavily in the west.

it is very much in place. now what i am asking people is to determine if this option is "healthy" or "not".

all the evidence and the research says that it is healthy in countless ways. what do the people of MTF say?
murder and robbery are also being exercised very heavily around the world, should we say it is what it is and seek means to legalize and condone them as well?

what is wrong is wrong no matter how many people practice it.

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my own observations suggest that it is even more unhealthy than first realized when viewed within the context of a very short and a fleeting life with rapidly fleeting opportunities.

i can give some personal examples tomorrow as i have dated a number of married women. the message from all of them was pretty clear: they were all caught in a bad situation and they were not happy. worse, they had stopped growing as human beings. they felt trapped and wanted to explore other options. something was missing in their relationships and they had to try something.

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what is the ultimate end in life old sport? by most accounts, its happiness that is the ultimate end to which everything else is merely means.
let me modify your part. happiness has to be pursued without trampling upon someone's toes and within ethical means.

That's the correct understanding.

divorce precisely occurs a lot more often because of your viewpoint.

no ,its highly unethical and cruel to break commitment and vows.Its not a small thing.

if you have severe problems, better end it and do what you want .but cheating at anytime is not on.

not easy to end it agreed.but it is the right thing to do than hurt and spite the other person.
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you are not much of a believer in the concept of marriage are you CD?

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