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A serious problem is starting to gather pace in the UK, The British National Party are starting to get political votes and their values and ideals are shocking.



Last night he said that London was become ethnically cleansed and that white people were being forced out of the capital by muslims, he is against gay rights and said that watching two fully grown men kiss made him feel creepy.

Their growing support is supported by racist cases like this, especially the north of the uk.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQLrrarlNfE

All this was braught to a head last night when their leader Nick Griffin attended a famous BBC political programme called Question time.

You can watch it here

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...estion+time+ni

here are some of his previous statements

Griffin in quotes

On the Holocaust

I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that 6 million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat… I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter-day witch-hysteria.”

On Race

Without the White race, nothing matters. [Other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create ‘Black Britons’, while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land.”

On power

When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate. We have to have a body of trained young men capable of defending our organisation. If people come to crack our heads we will break theirs.”

On Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf

The chapter I most enjoyed was the one on propaganda and organisation – there were some really useful ideas there.”

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That's indeed scary. But not more scary than extreme right parties in other European countries. The negative highlight for me still is Le Pen qualifying for the 2nd round in 2002.
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what a colourful character...
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Pathetic from Europeans to support fascist and pseudo-fascist parties.
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That's indeed scary. But not more scary than extreme right parties in other European countries. The negative highlight for me still is Le Pen qualifying for the 2nd round in 2002.
That case was truly the highlight, but the BNP is clearly more radical than other Continental far-right parties.

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Armstrong says in-competition testing will never catch anyone, only out-of-competition testing and the blood passport can.

Tennis has no blood passport system, and does basically no out of competition testing.

The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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It's been blown a little bit out of proportion. BNP got a couple of EU parliament seats because they're anti-Brussels. In the UK general elections they always get less than 1% popular vote which is smaller than most nationalist parties. In Germany the equivalent NPD got 1.5% at the recent domestic elections.
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That case was truly the highlight, but the BNP is clearly more radical than other Continental far-right parties.
You sure about that? By definition a far-right party is suppose to be radical.
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You sure about that? By definition a far-right party is suppose to be radical.
Of course, but there's degrees within radicalism.

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Armstrong says in-competition testing will never catch anyone, only out-of-competition testing and the blood passport can.

Tennis has no blood passport system, and does basically no out of competition testing.

The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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That's indeed scary. But not more scary than extreme right parties in other European countries. The negative highlight for me still is Le Pen qualifying for the 2nd round in 2002.
In Italy at the moment an important part of extreme right wing is at government. Alessandra Mussolini (Mussolini's granddaughter) is deputee in the party that has the relative majority in the country (which comes from the union of Berlusconi party and extreme right wing party, ex neofascist). In addition there is a strange party, called "Lega Nord", which is not really right-winged, but is often described as xenophobe by foreign newspapers.

The main problem that brings people to join right wing is inmigration and new safety problems connected to it. Here in Italy especially strong group of inmigrants from all over the world increased criminality and sense of fear in people. The left wing with its will to let everybody come to our country lost all its votes. Nevertheless, during left wing governments everything went worse and worse, even economic situation.

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As if immigration were responsible for violence...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QAvk...layer_embedded

This great bit of edited work sums him up.

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As if immigration were responsible for violence...
There is a direct correlation between the rise of immigration and the rise of criminality, that's a fact.

Now the reasons, that's another story.

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Armstrong says in-competition testing will never catch anyone, only out-of-competition testing and the blood passport can.

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The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QAvk...layer_embedded

This great bit of edited work sums him up.
Does he deny the holocaust there? That might be why the video isn't available here in Germany.

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The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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As if immigration were responsible for violence...
We have criminals made in Italy. Why should we get more and more and more??

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Does he deny the holocaust there? That might be why the video isn't available here in Germany.
It's full of cuts from word to word, I don't understand well talked English, but I don't think it's reliable video.

It's sad to see that in some so called "democracies" it isn't possible to make debates about historical events...

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