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Ethical questions over harvesting dead son's sperm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090321/..._europe_incest

Romania weighs decriminalizing consensual incest

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Re: Consensual incest:: crime or not?

anything consensual between adults is legitimate and must be legal.
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This is fcked up, you can have sex with retarded people and have children with them, but you cant have sex with your own sister just because you might get retarded children?

In that case you shouldnt be allowed to have sex with disabled people, retards or dwarves, am I right?

Or they should let you have sex with family members as long as it is not vaginal or something like that. In countries where abortion is legal as in Sweden it is just to go and have an abortion and get thats it.

As a liberal I belive it is every persons right to decide if they want to fck with their family members as long as it is consensual.

PS: I dont want to fck my sister, because I dont have one. My cousin however, I would do her if it wasnt because of my narrowminded family.
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PS: I dont want to fck my sister, because I dont have one. My cousin however, I would do her if it wasnt because of my narrowminded family.


Most guys have a cousin they'd like to f*ck, that's not uncommon at all.

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Most guys have a cousin they'd like to f*ck, that's not uncommon at all.
I wish my only female cousin would live here. That would be a sitting duck.

Any step against stupid church-rules-turned-to-laws is a good step.

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anything consensual between adults is legitimate and must be legal.
I agree with that.
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anything consensual between adults is legitimate and must be legal.
The only time I felt went a little bit too far when it comes to giving adults liberty to do whatever they want was a case of a guy in Germany who had fantasies of beeing eaten up and hooked up with a cannibal to eat him up.
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well, I'm glad that at least cousins aren't considered incest in my part of the world, they are fuckable I mean you can marry your cousin.

but sister is another issue, I mean seriously now forget about church and whatever, would you really fuck your sister if she said ok? that is seriously fucked up.

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well, I'm glad that at least cousins aren't considered incest in my part of the world, they are fuckable I mean you can marry your cousin.

but sister is another issue, I mean seriously now forget about church and whatever, would you really fuck your sister if she said ok? that is seriously fucked up.
Why is that? I have masturbated many times with the image of me just doing nasty things with an imaginary sister and it surely adds to the experience. I sadly dont know how it would feel in real life, maybe it would be embarassing and awkward, that is, not sexy awkward like when I am masturbating but just odd awkward. Well, lucky you who can fuck your cousin atleast, my cousin is not that hot but just beeing my cousin makes her so much hotter. Also she is 16 so that would also be an issue, better for me to just wait 2 years, right?
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Why is that? I have masturbated many times with the image of me just doing nasty things with an imaginary sister and it surely adds to the experience. I sadly dont know how it would feel in real life, maybe it would be embarassing and awkward, that is, not sexy awkward like when I am masturbating but just odd awkward. Well, lucky you who can fuck your cousin atleast, my cousin is not that hot but just beeing my cousin makes her so much hotter. Also she is 16 so that would also be an issue, better for me to just wait 2 years, right?
as you said, you don't know thats why you think you would enjoy it, I can't speak for everyone (the world is full of sick freaks) but that is seriously fucked up, I can understand if someone grew up and only met his sister after 15-20 years for some reason, because she won't feel like she is your SISTER you know, but besides that, I think it makes no sense whatsoever to seek legalizing something like this.

it's like legalizing consensual homicide, that is a person agreed with a written legal letter that he wants to be killed by a certain individual and he killed him, how fucked up would legalizing that be?

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anything consensual between adults is legitimate and must be legal.
No it should not be. If a parent has sex with their child even if the child is over 18, it is wrong. A parent can manipulate their child, control their child and abuse their child mentally until that child no matter how old they are thinks that they deserve the abuse and that it's what they want. It's completely wrong. Not to mention how a child (again no matter what age they are) can feel pressurized by their parents into doing what that parent wants and believing that it is right. Do not underestimate the power that a parent has over their child and the lengths that that child will go to to please their parent and be loved by it. Abusers are just so clever, they prey on any weakness and make you believe anything and the fact that a parent could do this to their own child and cause such utter misery and despair which is what it really is, is abhorrent and should not be tolerated by society in any shape or form.
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Having offspring with close blood-relatives has long been a taboo even in prehistoric human cultures. This taboo probably evolved in evolution because of the greatly increased risk for genetic disease and reduced survival of this offspring. So it does make some sense that some regulations are in place, if only to protect the quality of life of the potential offspring.

In several genetic population groups in the world today, genetic analysis shows "bottlenecks" a long time ago when a small ancestral population was so reduced by famine, food shortages and disease that inbreeding resulted as a last resort. The traces of this can still be seen in the genes even of broad and diverse ethnic populations in the world today. But in general this inbreeding only happened as a last resort in the worst possible circumstances to ensure survival.


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No it should not be. If a parent has sex with their child even if the child is over 18, it is wrong. A parent can manipulate their child, control their child and abuse their child mentally until that child no matter how old they are thinks that they deserve the abuse and that it's what they want. It's completely wrong. Not to mention how a child (again no matter what age they are) can feel pressurized by their parents into doing what that parent wants and believing that it is right. Do not underestimate the power that a parent has over their child and the lengths that that child will go to to please their parent and be loved by it. Abusers are just so clever, they prey on any weakness and make you believe anything and the fact that a parent could do this to their own child and cause such utter misery and despair which is what it really is, is abhorrent and should not be tolerated by society in any shape or form.
I said consensual. Psychological abuse doesn't constitute consensus. If parent and adult offspring wanna fu*k the brains out of each other and are both happy, it isn't nobody's business.
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I said consensual. Psychological abuse doesn't constitute consensus. If parent and adult offspring wanna fu*k the brains out of each other and are both happy, it isn't nobody's business.
Psychological abuse excludes a potential lawsuit and makes something look consensual while it is not. These things are very fragile and the possibility of investigation will be now made extremely difficult. In countries where incest is penalized making it look "consensual" is quite a common defense line. As the process goes however, we discover a real family drama and often the marks of not only psychological impact, but also physical torture.

Consensual incest is a very small margine of sexual activities in our cultural circle. From a lawyer's point of view, I think it is too small to give them the freedom and risk the shattered minds/lives of some other human beings. The other case is wheter the activity has started when one of those people was an adult or not and when and in what circumstances it became "consensual." I see too many dangers and question marks in it.

I am not speaking now as an individual person who might or might not fantasize about her brother/cousin/father/ but as a person who's got something to do with law and thinks of a positive or negative impact on a society.

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Re: Consensual incest:: crime or not?

I think consensual activity is okay, but given specific circumstances.

Cousins are okay I think, although once one starts going into the "inner" family things become much weirder and shady.

Have intercourse with a brother or a sister is very bizarre (and quite nasty in my opinion).

However, after all things are said and done, even brother-sister relationships, if consensual, should not be punished by law. This is essentially a victimless crime and something that happened with relative frequency back in the old days in Europe.

Weird. Yes. Nasty. Yes.

Illegal? Circumstantial.

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