ok, this is gonna be long.
but anyways, given that you seem to stick to pure debate, it's gonna be interesting.
Bring it on.
yeah, but it becomes more and more clear that we're not debating politics itself but rather policies. at first glance i thought you'd be going for the circumstances under which we are ruled to some extent, but it's rather you having a different opinion than our chancellor. that's fine with me. but you do realise that kohl was different? schröder was too. hartz 4 was his idea and france, italy, sweden and that lot are far behind us regarding the social structure. and kohl was the elected chancellor for almost 20 years, so the judgement of the german electorate in that particular time must be correct in your mind, right?
and your points regarding "debating the important issues" etc. are subjective views of course, as are mine. no need for us to debate about that, i guess we're just different in setting priorities.
Actually I like Angela Merkel and I'm sure I'd agree with most of her views but I feel she's doing a lot of things she doesn't believe in so she can be in power and stay popular. And I don't have anything against the German electoral system, in fact I prefer it to the UK's election process.
man, seems like i don't even know you
"germans don't get the big picture"? what kind of a sweeping generalization is that? it's like me saying that brits all have red hair, look pale and pasty and walk around in their trainers all day long. you can do better than that, so cut that crap out.
Indeed I shouldn't generalize.
and i gotta repeat what i just said: so according to you german "got the big picture" 16 years and then suddenly lost it? then got it again during schröder for some time and then lost it again? then got it back during the landtagswahlen just to lose it at the bundestagswahlen? that just doesn't make sense. as i tried to point out before - germans obviously love it politically balanced. what's so hard to understand about that? all you have to do is check the results over the last 50 years.
Maybe this is a bad patch but I'm not sure I would have preferred the Schröder years. It's not just about who's in power, it's the issues being discussed in debates, the anger I feel from the public, the ideas started by politicians (even if they don't get passed).
btw i'm on your side when it comes to many things you mention, but i feel like i have to defend "my country", as funny as it may sound, against your reckless bashing. quite obviously the living standard in britain is the same as in germany, so politics over here apparently weren't "wrong" in its actual sense but rather taste different than british politicis. take a look around, the effect is the same, the output's as high as the british output.
You don't need to defend your country from me, I love the lifestyle here and the quality is very high BUT IT'S NOT DUE TO POLITICS. That's the point I'm trying to make. Like I said Germans work much harder than Brits and that's where the greater output comes from.
it's not just that i "want free healthcare" and so on, but i definitely don't want privatized health care as in the states. so yes, i prefer our system. japan has it, scandinavia has it, france has it and it works, as simple as that.
Britain has it too. Again, this is not the problem I have with German politics, I was just quoting examples of issues to make a point.
and i'm once again stunned about your indifference regarding morals. in your opinion, what should be done about the tax evasion scandal? just neglect it? confess that "the real world", as you call it, works like that and accept misdemeanor?
Investigate it, of course. I'm sure Brits investigate tax evasions too but we just don't hear about it on the news the same as we do here in Germany. And Brits certainly don't reach the same levels of anger as over here.
and that's ok. may i ask you about your german skills?
I can speak quite fluently, I can listen very well, I can read alright but I'm shit at writing. I'll do it every now and then but I make so many spelling and grammatic errors.