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The rugby World Cup starts this weekend and it seems to be quite hard to pick this time and I hope the All Blacks win the whole thing, but they freeze on the big stage.

Honestly as long as South Africa or England don't win the thing, then I will be happy with that.

Hope there can be some surprises, but we pretty much know the big sides will make the last 8.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1

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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

Good thread

You want England or South Africa to win it? Or there was supposed to be a "don't" in there?

Good group for the Scots, hopefully we can make the QF at least.
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

Yes, I changed the typo and no I don't want the Bokies or the Poms to win.

Good opening game between France and Argentina, should be a bit of physical play there. I mean the Argie forward are probably used to eating a whole cow before they play, but they lack out wide.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

I didn't think so Habana might be top try scorer though

Yep tonight's game should be good, there isn't too many good group games unfortunately.
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

Rugby World Cup 2007 fixtures


Pool A

England, South Africa, Samoa, USA, Tonga

Pool B

Australia, Wales, Fiji, Canada, Japan

Pool C

New Zealand, Scotland, Italy, Romania, Portugal

Pool D

France, Ireland, Argentina, Georgia, Namibia

FULL RUGBY WORLD CUP 2007 SCHEDULE

7 September:
France v Argentina, Stade de France, Paris, Pool D (2000 BST)

8 September:

England v USA, Lens, Pool A (1700 BST)
Australia v Japan, Lyon, Pool B (1445 BST)
New Zealand v Italy, Marseille, Pool C (1245 BST)

9 September:

Ireland v Namibia, Bordeaux, Pool D (1900 BST)
Wales v Canada, Nantes, Pool B (1300 BST)
South Africa v Samoa, Parc des Princes, Paris, Pool A (1500 BST)
Scotland v Portugal, St Etienne, Pool C (1700 BST)

11 September:

Argentina v Georgia, Lyon, Pool D (1900 BST)

12 September:

Italy v Romania, Marseille, Pool C (1900 BST)
USA v Tonga, Montpellier, Pool A (1300 BST)
Japan v Fiji, Toulouse, Pool B (1700 BST)

14 September:

England v South Africa, Stade de France, Paris, Pool A (2000 BST)

15 September:

Ireland v Georgia, Bordeaux, Pool D (2000 BST)
Wales v Australia, Cardiff, Pool B (1400 BST)
New Zealand v Portugal, Lyon, Pool C (1200 BST)

16 September:

Fiji v Canada, Cardiff, Pool B (1300 BST)
Samoa v Tonga, Montpellier, Pool A (1500 BST)
France v Namibia, Toulouse, Pool D (2000 BST)

18 September:

Scotland v Romania, Edinburgh, Pool C (2000 BST)

19 September:

Italy v Portugal, Parc des Princes, Paris, Pool C (1900 BST)

20 September:

Wales v Japan, Cardiff, Pool B (2000 BST)

21 September:

France v Ireland, Stade de France, Paris, Pool D (2000 BST)

22 September:

South Africa v Tonga, Lens, Pool A (1300 BST)
Argentina v Namibia, Marseille, Pool D (2000 BST)
England v Samoa, Nantes, Pool A (1500 BST)

23 September:

Scotland v New Zealand, Edinburgh, Pool C (1600 BST)
Australia v Fiji, Montpellier, Pool B (1330 BST)

25 September:

Canada v Japan, Bordeaux, Pool B (1700 BST)
Romania v Portugal, Toulouse, Pool C (1900 BST)

26 September:

Georgia v Namibia, Lens, Pool D (1700 BST)
Samoa v USA, St Etienne, Pool A (1900 BST)

28 September:

England v Tonga, Parc des Princes, Paris, Pool A (2000 BST)

29 September:

Australia v Canada, Bordeaux, Pool B (1400 BST)
Wales v Fiji, Nantes, Pool B (1600 BST)
Scotland v Italy, St Etienne, Pool C (2000 BST)
New Zealand v Romania, Toulouse, Pool C (1200 BST)

30 September:

France v Georgia, Marseille, Pool D (1400 BST)
South Africa v USA, Montpellier, Pool A (1900 BST)
Ireland v Argentina, Parc des Princes, Paris, Pool D (1600 BST)

6 October:

QF1: W Pool B v RU Pool A, Marseille (1400 BST)
QF2: W Pool C v RU Pool D, Cardiff (2000 BST)

7 October:
QF3: W Pool A v RU Pool B, Marseille (1400 BST)
QF4: W Pool D v RU Pool C, Stade de France, Paris (2000 BST)

13 October:
SF1: W QF1 v W QF2, Stade de France, Paris (2000 BST)

14 October:
SF2: W QF3 v W QF4, Stade de France, Paris (2000 BST)

19 October:
3rd place play-off, Parc des Princes, Paris (2000 BST)

20 October:
Final, Stade de France, Paris (2000 BST)

*Fixtures, dates and times are subject to late change

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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I didn't think so Habana might be top try scorer though

Yep tonight's game should be good, there isn't too many good group games unfortunately.
You going to go to Murrayfield to watch the All Blacks? Yes, there are some weak matches, at the same time imagine the Georgian team, this is where Labadze is these days, playing hooker for them.

It will warm up around the QF stage.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

I would like the All Blacks to win the tournamnet this time as well. Admittedly in 2003, they weren't the best side going into competition, England were, but in 1991, 1995 and 1999 I'm guessing that they were the red hot favourites.
In the last two years, away from home they have beaten France (twice), England, Australia and South Africa (twice). They have an embarresment of riches at their disposal. A bit like Argentina with the Copa America earlier this year, anything less than bringing home the title would surely be unnacceptable for them.
Good luck to Canada. We are sure to lose to Australia, Wales and Fiji, but hopefully we can beat Japan and avoid finishing bottom of the group.
The 3 most important matches of the pool stages are, in no particular order, England V South Africa in Pool A (both teams would rather face Wales in the quarter-finals than Australia I'm sure), Scotland V Italy in Pool C, and Ireland V Argentina in Pool D.
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

These Canadians don't need to wear padding.

Actually in 2003 I think they were better than England and maybe 91 the All Blacks weren't at their best. 1995 they were so much better than everyone else and then there was the episode where most of their team went down with an illness before the final.

Gaudio is a huge rugby fan and I bet he will be at the match.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

2003 was the most appalling WC, it was a joke that England won it scoring so few tries

This one should be much better, and New Zealand should win it if they play anywhere near their best.
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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

England won't get away with those tactics this time.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Actually in 2003 I think they were better than England and maybe 91 the All Blacks weren't at their best. 1995 they were so much better than everyone else and then there was the episode where most of their team went down with an illness before the final.
In 2003, they absolutely battered Australia and South Africa away from home in the Tri-Nations didn't they, scoring 50 points plus each time. They beat Australia 50-21 at Sydney in July (I'm not sure of the exact score), but then choked big time against the same opposition in the same stadium a few months later.
Australia are the exact opposite of New Zealand. They often perform very poorly in-between rugby world cups, but then once the competition starts, they always seem to raise their game (they overachieved to reach the final in 2003 I would say). They can never be written off and are the rugby equivalent of Germany at football world cup.
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England won't get away with those tactics this time.
They were so scared they were going to lose to Samoa that they felt to need to field 16 players on the pitch at one point

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In 2003, they absolutely battered Australia and South Africa away from home in the Tri-Nations didn't they, scoring 50 points plus each time. They beat Australia 50-21 at Sydney in July (I'm not sure of the exact score), but then choked big time against the same opposition in the same stadium a few months later.
Australia are the exact opposite of New Zealand. They often perform very poorly in-between rugby world cups, but then once the competition starts, they always seem to raise their game (they overachieved to reach the final in 2003 I would say). They can never be written off and are the rugby equivalent of Germany at football world cup.
I remember they were handing out the pain and it was pretty much by how far were the Kiwis going to win it by. I think maybe they got a bit cocky and even their haka that day had nothing in it and the Aussies got them and they definitely overachieved that event.

Bit of needle now with Eddie Jones former Aussie coach working with the South Africans in an advising role.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Canada should clinch it.

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Re: 2007 Rugby World Cup Thread. Vamos Argentina

Sebastien Chabal is just a beast :
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1uh_aW...elated&search=
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