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New York: 23 yr old arrested on hate crime charges for throwing Koran in toilet

This story is unfucking believable and is bound to happen more and more with the new stupid and subjective hate crime law.

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NEW YORK (AP) _ A 23-year-old man was arrested Friday on hate-crime charges after he threw a Quran in a toilet at Pace University on two separate occasions, police said.

Stanislav Shmulevich of Brooklyn was arrested on charges of criminal mischief and aggravated harassment, both hate crimes, police said. It was unclear if he was a student at the school. A message left at the Shmulevich home was not immediately returned.
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He is being charged with FELONIES, not misdemeanors, I wonder if the same would of happened if he threw the mormon bible, the torah or the bible, off course not. The only thing they could charge him for is the price of the book(maybe a misdemeanor for vandalism) other than that this insane, he attacked no one, harrassed no one, but this is what you get with a subjective law.

I hope they arrest christians for burning harry potter books, that is a hate crime against the author, and burning the american flag is a "hate crime" against americans so anyone who does that should be arrested. For some reason muslims think their retarded religion is immune to criticism, we have seen how they react in the middle east to criticism, but for this to happen in the US is ridiculous.

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Re: New York: 23 yr old arrested on hate crime charges for throwing Koran in toilet

It's all a big misunderstanding, he was just trying to clean it.....
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It's all a big misunderstanding, he was just trying to clean it.....

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Re: New York: 23 yr old arrested on hate crime charges for throwing Koran in toilet

The Koran is something sacred,not a mere book therefore he should have respect toward it
so the arrest is well deserved
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The Koran is something sacred,not a mere book therefore he should have respect toward it
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sacred to who? its worthless in most people's eyes and IMO its actually a dangerous book if anyone is dumb enough to take it seriously.

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sacred to who? its worthless in most people's eyes and IMO its actually a dangerous book if anyone is dumb enough to take it seriously.
over a billion people you :retard:.
USA doesnt have a offical state religon, you can practice whatever you want, if a bible is thrown in the toilet, its same as the koran.

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sacred to who? its worthless in most people's eyes and IMO its actually a dangerous book if anyone is dumb enough to take it seriously.
Do you have any information as to the context of the desecration? Was it someone else's copy? Had he threatened to take the property of another individual with intent to threaten or intimidate them on the basis of their religion?

Who reported his activities? Did he do other illegal things surrounding this activity? Where was he?

The hate crime laws are made with respect to things only with respect to how those things relate to persons (as far as I know). If he legally acquired a copy of the Quran and flushed it, that's his business. (It's highly disrespectful but it's his right.)
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^ there is probably more to that story, he posted what he needed to spin it his :retard:ed way

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whole story
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...,6882662.story

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Thank you for posting. I doubted the incident happened in isolation from other (hateful) activity.
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If they were his, he should be allowed to do what he wants with them as long as it doesn't affect others. There is no law protecting books of certain types in this country, nor should they be. Once we start creating laws to keep people from offending other religions, we start down a ridiculous slope of limited speech. It's ridiculous.

If the books were not his, then I might understand this. If he stole them from a Muslim and did this, it would make sense to charge him with a hate crime, because he is certainly using the person's religion to harm them. But if they were his, the only thing he should be punished for is vandalism for putting them in a toilet.


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If they were his, he should be allowed to do what he wants with them as long as it doesn't affect others. There is no law protecting books of certain types in this country, nor should they be. Once we start creating laws to keep people from offending other religions, we start down a ridiculous slope of limited speech. It's ridiculous.

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this is funny in so many ways, coming from you.

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Re: New York: 23 yr old arrested on hate crime charges for throwing Koran in toilet

The "artist" who put a crucifix in urine and displayed it in an art gallery was a "hero" to the same people who will throw this kid in jail for a "hate" crime.
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Thank you for posting. I doubted the incident happened in isolation from other (hateful) activity.
I forgot to add the link, anyway from the story


The incidents came amid a spate of vandalism cases with religious or racial overtones at the school. In an earlier incident on Sept. 21, the school reported another copy of the Quran was found in a library toilet, and in October someone scrawled racial slurs on a student's car at the Westchester County satellite campus and on a bathroom wall at the campus in lower Manhattan. Police did not connect Shmulevich to those incidents. so he is only accused of throwing the koran in the toilet 2 times.

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Re: New York: 23 yr old arrested on hate crime charges for throwing Koran in toilet

Absurd. At the same time, this guy really needs to find a more effective means of protest. Then again, he's probably gotten far more press for this than he would have had he put in the effort to do something more intelligent. A sad reflection on our media and culture, that

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