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And I have a moral dilemma with all these missionaries that my friends go on. Sure... they feed, read, and clothe those less fortunate, but then they throw a bible at them. *sigh*
I'm in the same situation. I was a bit disappointed with my Christian friend when she told me she was going on a summer trip with a missionary group to Africa. I understand and respect that she's very religious and has strong beliefs but that doesn't give her the right to force her beliefs on other people.

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I have told people for years that I am the Messiah, but nobody listens...
But no! I tried to explain a month or so ago my devotion to you and you told me to find a more noble diety deserving of my worship. It was so upsetting that I even broke into tears. But now I understand that you were simply testing my faith and loyalty to you, oh radiant Messiah Q.

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yes i think the general feeling on thread is people are allowed to be religious and follow a faith but respect others for saying no thanks its not for me. and doesnt the bible say that giving is more important than receiving?? well all i ever get is asked for money by these people for this and that, i never see any receiving my way.

Main reason i would never follow a faith and this sounds so arrogant but I have enough faith in myself and thats enough for me, I dont feel I need a master or a boss to control me so I can sleep at night.
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I don't believe in God because I have faith in Man.

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I totally agree...me neither...

And look how many arseholes who have hit women or been alcoholics and caused peopel so much harm that find god in middle age.

Its a cop out !!! its using it as a publicity stunt so people say oh what a nice person they are now and lets excuse and forgive them.
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I do believe in god. I dont really have set faith that I follow and if I did the first faith I would look to would be that of my family. For me personally believing in god it gives me more purpose in my own life.

As for enforcing religion on others that just wrong, there should be no complusion in religion.
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Religion causes nothing but shit, if people just got on with life and faced whats in front of them and used survival instincts instead of needing a god like animals do life would be so much more pleasent relaxed enjoyable and great.

you get bombs going off kids getting shot, murders all in the name of religion...does it fkn matter who created the world or who or what spirit controls the world??? deal with it as it happens ... and going into a church and singing hymns and repeating prayers like some robot does not make you a better or nicer person. you are born naturalyl nice or kind or your not, I dont guidance from the lord changes thats fact...

Trust me on this one..if you took out religion the world would be a MUCH HAPPIER place !!!!
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Although I'm certainly not a fan of religion, seeing at all the harm and destruction that's been done in the name of it since the beginning of mankind, I embrace religious diversity. I completely understand why some people choose to have faith in God although I have not chosen that path for myself. So if people want to follow God in their lives, then good for them. The problems I have with religion are when it starts to influence political decisions (i.e. Bush in the US) - whatever happened to separation of Church and State?! - and, as denim mentioned, when people are killed due to differences in beliefs. If, as a society, we could be more accepting and less focused on spreading personal/individual beliefs, religion would not be harmful.

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You know i dont think its religion that creates all these problems I think its man itself. You cant honestly believe that if their was no religion there would be no wars?? they would happen for some other idiotic reason.

If their is no belief in anything thats what leads to the most atrocious things happen. There has to be more to life and thats the way i see it because if their isnt u just live a totally meaningless existence. You cant just be ignorant and say if their was no religion everything would be better, thats taking the easy way out. You have to delve further as religion attempts not just get caught up in the shallow fasidities of life.
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well its on competition i would never enter...catholics v protestants....hindu against christian and thats all it is nowdays and i am so happy o b an atheist and not part of all this crap.

and also I hate being patronised, I hate people saying oh well the child who got hit by drunk driver that was gods way of saying the child was special and needed and taken to a special place, not much comfort for the parents.

I telly ou what the next person at west croydon bus station that comes up to me and wont walk away when i say sorry not interested and I'm atheist, they will get a smack in the mouth and surprised it hasnt happened already and there wont be a holy gumshield dropping down for them.

AND i tlly ou why i am like this and so angry, as i have every fkn right to be an atheist its a free world and i am sick to death of being asked for money or to join churches and the whole thing !!! and if i get more and more people harrasing me with their religious stuff when i am out then they will find out denims religion which is when i say no and not interested that means go away or trouble.....and if peopel cant accept fact peopel dont belive in god thats pretty sad as I thought one of the keys to believing in god was acceptance !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with that, Trixy.

People who think that religon is the cause of war are missing the point that religon is one of man's creation. Different religous beliefs can be a reason for hating one another, but people can hate one another for the color of their skin or other irrational reasons. While religon has led to fighting, there are many, many other things that have led to fighting as well. I think that religon is sometimes the excuse people use to hate one another.
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AND i tlly ou why i am like this and so angry, as i have every fkn right to be an atheist its a free world and i am sick to death of being asked for money or to join churches and the whole thing !!! and if i get more and more people harrasing me with their religious stuff when i am out then they will find out denims religion which is when i say no and not interested that means go away or trouble.....and if peopel cant accept fact peopel dont belive in god thats pretty sad as I thought one of the keys to believing in god was acceptance !!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what I tell Christians who try to convert me: In the new testament, some people who were trying to convert people in a community were having no success. They asked for advice and recieved this answer: Go to the edge of the city, shake the dust from your sandals, and return no more. So, I always say to these people.... shake the dust from your sandals. If they are truly religous and read the bible, they should know what that means.
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I believe forcing any type of opinion on someone else is wrong, let alone religion. I believe all religions are right, even athiesm, and just see another side of the elephant that another religion does.
HEAR HEAR!!!
a few really close friends have been discovering their religious sides in the recent months... and i've been trying to be diplomatic whenever they start pushing it at me.

they're asking ppl to respect their religion and here they are trying to force feed you into submission? HELLO!!!!!!! hypocrisy maybe? if they weren't ppl i know to be completely sane non-religionwise, i'd have told them to beat it....which i did to the doorbell ringing evangelists actually.

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But no! I tried to explain a month or so ago my devotion to you and you told me to find a more noble diety deserving of my worship. It was so upsetting that I even broke into tears. But now I understand that you were simply testing my faith and loyalty to you, oh radiant Messiah Q.

Ah, dear dear Leo, you have been tested and proved yourself true unto Me. As it says in the Great Book, Q works in mysterious ways. *enter massive chorus intoning pure vowels*

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Wow, can't believe this turns to full blown religious discussion!

Emm, I will go to church this morning is about 2 hours. For some people here who are continuously being pushed by other religious people, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't like a salesman knocking on my door trying to sell me anything and even I'm a religious person, I don't like someone knocking on my door trying to sell me religion. The only problem I have with all these kind of people is when you'll say no, they continue to push.

As for saying religious believes result in many wars, I always remember how some so called journalists, twisting and turning what people said and make news out of it.

I hope posters here can have a little bit tolerance for their friends or neighbours when they try to share their religion with you. From their point of view, they find something excellent and would like to share it with you. Don't you do it yourself sometimes? When my favourite player won a championship, I like to shout it out really loud so everyone hear. See how many posters try to say Nadal's butt is better than Roddick's

end of my preaching and have a good day (In my heart I am saying God Bless though )
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