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Thailand or South Korea

I wrote about this on wtaworld already, but I could use as much input as possible and I know that some people here don't post on the other board. So, here I am, double posting my thread

I'm looking for some advice from anybody who has been to one of these lovely countries, or even just have second hand remarks to pass on.

I'm applying to teach in both. I already know that, due to the exchange, there is far more money to be had in South Korea. I also know that even though I'd be making peanuts in Canadian funds if I worked in Thailand, that it's dirt cheap to live over there, so my standard of living would still be relatively high by Thai standards. I have a rough idea of the climate and obstacles that I may face in both (working conditions, treatment of foreigners, etc.)

I'm really just looking for comments from anybody who has experience with either country that might want to offer some advice to help tip me one way or the other. Negative, positive... all commentary is welcome.

I have discussed the matter with some of you personally in other threads in the past. I'm looking to go in September, towards the end of the month is most likely at this point.

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I live in South Korea

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Vamos Ljubo,

Not a heck of a lot! Just studying my options. I can't wait to get out of here. Going away will give me a chance to experience another culture, expose myself to a new language (possibly languages, depending on where I go), give me something to write about, a job with purpose... I can't wait! But at the same time, I must prepare for the negatives.

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I live in South Korea
Anything imparticular you would want to pass on to a Canadian thinking of teaching English in your country?

The climate, from what I've read about it, is quite similar to the one I experience here. 4 seasons.. cool winters, humid summers. So that would be nothing new.

Wherever I go, whether it be South Korea or Thailand, I will definitely be interested in actively learning the language and culture. I don't wish to stick out like a sore thumb, take my money and run. That would be a waste of an experience.

It is worth noting that I will be travelling and working as a single female. I'm not sure what safety concerns this poses for either country. I'm also rather tall, so I might stick out like a sore thumb, no?

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well we are crazy about learning english (especially for kids) even though most people actually don't speak well. and I don't know quite well actually how the foreign english teacher system is working, but there are a bunch of english institutions over here.
but I'm not sure what exactly you want to know about us, so ask in detail?

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well we are crazy about learning english (especially for kids) even though most people actually don't speak well. and I don't know quite well actually how the foreign english teacher system is working, but there are a bunch of english institutions over here.
but I'm not sure what exactly you want to know about us, so ask in detail?
There are jobs available in both the public and private sectors. I haven't heard much good from people who had jobs in hogwans, which I gather are private intitutes where the children are crammed with as much information as possible, usually by rote? I'm still looking into that, though, as you have to be careful when reading a negative comment from somebody who has taught; generally you hear the bad, but not the positive, because the happy teachers are still over there living it up

I guess I'm wondering what area you might recommend for somebody such as myself? Mid 20's, single female, looking for a large city (but not Seoul), curious about how the locals view the foreign teachers, wondering about personal safety, the night life, etc.

Even a summary of what you love and possibly don't like about your country would be great.

A lot of what I read on Korea comes from people who only travelled and worked there for a year or two. While some of this is worth reading it, a lot of it requires getting around some general racism, xenophobia, and negative from people who had poor experiences. I would consider the input of somebody native to the country to be very valuable.

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Vamos Ljubo,

Not a heck of a lot! Just studying my options. I can't wait to get out of here. Going away will give me a chance to experience another culture, expose myself to a new language (possibly languages, depending on where I go), give me something to write about, a job with purpose... I can't wait! But at the same time, I must prepare for the negatives.

What is up with you?
well i've been really busy doing nothing since May 14th(school ending) ill keep doing the same until Aug21(school start)

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well i've been really busy doing nothing since May 14th(school ending) ill keep doing the same until Aug21(school start)
Do you work to pass the time? Or at least binge drink?

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Do you work to pass the time? Or at least binge drink?
no work, i drink and travel, i was suppose to go to Croatia for 3 weeks but everyone in US is getting a passport now and i didnt get mine in time so ill go to Canada and Cincy AMS, one last trip before school starts

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There are jobs available in both the public and private sectors. I haven't heard much good from people who had jobs in hogwans, which I gather are private intitutes where the children are crammed with as much information as possible, usually by rote? I'm still looking into that, though, as you have to be careful when reading a negative comment from somebody who has taught; generally you hear the bad, but not the positive, because the happy teachers are still over there living it up

I guess I'm wondering what area you might recommend for somebody such as myself? Mid 20's, single female, looking for a large city (but not Seoul), curious about how the locals view the foreign teachers, wondering about personal safety, the night life, etc.

Even a summary of what you love and possibly don't like about your country would be great.

A lot of what I read on Korea comes from people who only travelled and worked there for a year or two. While some of this is worth reading it, a lot of it requires getting around some general racism, xenophobia, and negative from people who had poor experiences. I would consider the input of somebody native to the country to be very valuable.
well.. but all the information I can give you is about Seoul because I've never lived outside of here, I mean Seoul. Actually I live in Gangnam where there are tons of english institutes. maybe I can put the categories into two sections when it comes to foreign english teacher. the one who teaches for adults in general foreign institutes (either private or public), the other who teaches for kids. I think if you teach in publics like university or something that, you would be more reliable.
and speaking of the institutes where the childeren memorize everything they can, well, I guess you heared about our hogwon systems, but the institutes which I refered to is a little bit different. when it comes to hogwons, not only for english but for most of important subjects like maths or koreans, it's really common that we go to hogwons when we are in teen age to improve their school grades. it's not like we only are crammed with english, almost everything we are taught in school.

I don't know much about outside of Seoul, but it's quite safty IMO. but it doesn't mean I recommend you to go everywhere at night like other countries and areas, there are some safety areas while there are dangerous areas as well.

and general racism.. actually I think Caucasians are preferred behind the scenes, but when you go around, you won't feel anything special. even if you might feel somebody is looking at you,it's not like xenophobia, but simply out of curiosity of foreigners.

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I spend part of each year in Thailand. I am not sure I would like to work there. Even though Thais know that the foreigners have all the money, they still seem to think of themselves as having a better culture and therefore being better than the foreigners. The truth I think, is that when they move outside their own culture they are lost, and so find security in convincing themselves that their own environment is always best.

In truth I think most Thais consider that foreigners living in their country are justifiably considered as targets to exploit. And the courts can be depended on to side with the locals. Thus the jokes about the Thai wives that push their foreign husbands off the balcony: - and the court decides that it was not the wife's push that killed him, but the accidental contact of his head with the concrete on landing.

I also do not think I would like to be living and working outside the tourist areas. It would be hard to assimilate into the local culture.

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[QUOTE=buddyholly;5708128]I spend part of each year in Thailand. I am not sure I would like to work there. Even though Thais know that the foreigners have all the money, they still seem to think of themselves as having a better culture and therefore being better than the foreigners. The truth I think, is that when they move outside their own culture they are lost, and so find security in convincing themselves that their own environment is always best.

Well, I don't think we think that our culture is better, but yes we feel lost hen we out of our culture.
However, sometimes we treat foreigner better than ourselves.
For example, If foreigner become a teacher in Thailand, u get 40,000-60,000Baht/month, But for Thai teacher, they get 10,000-12,000 Baht/month.
By the way, any question about thailand? if u think I can help, u can ask me.
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Korea probably because Thailand got smashed by the shit Aussies.

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If you're not interested in being in Seoul I would personally choose Busan, but that's only 'cause I prefer being near the water. If that's not a big deal for you Cheon'an and Daejeon are getting pretty interesting these days as well.
yeah Busan is the second largest city in Korea, but Cheon-an is not a big city.
and if you're not choosing Seoul (in case you decide to go to SK), I recommend In-cheon. well I don't know your preference, but In-cheon is close to seoul (even connected by subway), pretty large, close to the sea as well, and no dialects. I'm not saying dialects is bad, but if you choose Busan, you probably learn korean dialects. and probably prices of In Cheon are more reasonable than those of Seoul.

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