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Way too much pressure on Roger - time to relax

Like most of you, I also found Roger's tears today endearing, but I'm afraid (and I must say I'm not a psychologist or a doctor or anything) it has revealed something deeper - the man could be on the verge of a mental breakdown.

And who wouldn't be...?
For more than two years now this nice and sensitive person has been "Mr. Perfect" for everyone, winning 172 out of 182 matches(94.5%!!!), being the overwehlming favorite to win every tournament he enters (which he's almost always justified), carrying the responsibility for tournament's publication on his shoulders (Shanghai, anyone...?), and worst of all - being reminded of dozens of different records he's seemingly on the verge of breaking by media people.

Now, let's put things in proportions - the guy is a millionaire, he's living our dreams - being rich and famous and overly talented, so it can't be all that bad, but for us fans it could prove costly, as it seemed to me this AO Roger hardly enjoyed playing tennis, it was all business and breaking more records.

Remember Pete Sampras, the guy whose GS record is supposedly Roger's destiny?
Well, he was never near perfect, he could lose matches here and there to lesser opponents and I highly doubt it the media would make such a fuss about it, the aesthetical side of his game was hardly ever discussed, and although he ended up grabbing a monstrous total of 64 titles, maybe once he won double figures in one season.
He was said to be the most driven tennis player ever, but it seems to me Roger has taken that title too...

So, unless Roger is willing to "pull a Wilander" (Mats got bored after his seventh Slam and quit tennis shortly after), I think he should switch to the "Sampras mode", i.e. focus on the Majors, stop being hard on himself, let himself lose occasionally, stop trying to satisfy everyone around him, forget about those silly records (although I admit it makes it fascinating for everyone, me included), try to win his annual Wimbledon, or USO, or both, and relax, so that we will all be able to enjoy him for many more years.


On a totally different note, it looks to me the AO courts are now officially slow - is it just me?
The only player to have mentioned that was Hewitt, but I clearly see how it makes things so much difficult for Roger - it was a huge struggle, he must be so proud of himself for winning the title when the conditions are far from favoring his game - do you think that is a good sign for Roland Garros...?
See...? I already put the pressure on him....

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Re: Way too much pressure on Roger - time to relax

if he locks up like today...nadal will make quick work of him...
also i dont know who all these clay specialists are that can threaten roger...
gaudio..nope
coria...nope
nalby...yes

who else...nadal is the main villain.

it will be interesting to see how he slides on the clay with the ankle
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Re: Way too much pressure on Roger - time to relax

You are absolutely right. He has to let go of the idea that he has to win every match at even the little tournaments. Once he realizes to shut out the media and feel OK about not winning every little tournament, it will free him up to concentrate on the Slams. This is what the great Pete Sampras did. He never tanked a match, but there were times when he would not try as hard compared with Wimby or the USO.
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You are absolutely right. He has to let go of the idea that he has to win every match at even the little tournaments. Once he realizes to shut out the media and feel OK about not winning every little tournament, it will free him up to concentrate on the Slams. This is what the great Pete Sampras did. He never tanked a match, but there were times when he would not try as hard compared with Wimby or the USO.
it seemed to me that he had this mentality at Doha...he was making errors left and right, but didnt seem to perturbed about it.
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This event was different since he was the huge favorite more so than at Wimbledon. He also was coming off a injury and lost some fitness because of it and because how hard this event was and this final. The Carters and Laver being there had an impact too. Roger's interview doesn't give me any indication he will wuss out like Mats. Roger said he wants to get even fitter.

I think he will take is easier on himself mentally now. He said he didn't like waiting all day for the night final either so that had some effect not to mention how well Baggy was playing.

Roger will get better as the year goes on. A lot has happened to him in the last two months.
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Like most of you, I also found Roger's tears today endearing, but I'm afraid (and I must say I'm not a psychologist or a doctor or anything) it has revealed something deeper - the man could be on the verge of a mental breakdown.

And who wouldn't be...?
For more than two years now this nice and sensitive person has been "Mr. Perfect" for everyone, winning 172 out of 182 matches(94.5%!!!), being the overwehlming favorite to win every tournament he enters (which he's almost always justified), carrying the responsibility for tournament's publication on his shoulders (Shanghai, anyone...?), and worst of all - being reminded of dozens of different records he's seemingly on the verge of breaking by media people.

Now, let's put things in proportions - the guy is a millionaire, he's living our dreams - being rich and famous and overly talented, so it can't be all that bad, but for us fans it could prove costly, as it seemed to me this AO Roger hardly enjoyed playing tennis, it was all business and breaking more records.

Remember Pete Sampras, the guy whose GS record is supposedly Roger's destiny?
Well, he was never near perfect, he could lose matches here and there to lesser opponents and I highly doubt it the media would make such a fuss about it, the aesthetical side of his game was hardly ever discussed, and although he ended up grabbing a monstrous total of 64 titles, maybe once he won double figures in one season.
He was said to be the most driven tennis player ever, but it seems to me Roger has taken that title too...

So, unless Roger is willing to "pull a Wilander" (Mats got bored after his seventh Slam and quit tennis shortly after), I think he should switch to the "Sampras mode", i.e. focus on the Majors, stop being hard on himself, let himself lose occasionally, stop trying to satisfy everyone around him, forget about those silly records (although I admit it makes it fascinating for everyone, me included), try to win his annual Wimbledon, or USO, or both, and relax, so that we will all be able to enjoy him for many more years.


On a totally different note, it looks to me the AO courts are now officially slow - is it just me?
The only player to have mentioned that was Hewitt, but I clearly see how it makes things so much difficult for Roger - it was a huge struggle, he must be so proud of himself for winning the title when the conditions are far from favoring his game - do you think that is a good sign for Roland Garros...?
See...? I already put the pressure on him....
He won this title in dirtball fashion LOL. Yes it is slower because they are using different balls now but since Hewitt has bitched about it maybe they will go back to the old balls. I don't want this event to become a pig sty next year.
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I think winning the AO should take a lot of pressure off his shoulders. It did in 2004. I'm not saying that he'll win 3 Slams again, but he'll play more freely for the rest of the year. Remember, every year when a player wins at least one GS is a great year. Also, he won't have to listen the talk about him going slamless.
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but I clearly see how it makes things so much difficult for Roger - it was a huge struggle, he must be so proud of himself for winning the title when the conditions are far from favoring his game - do you think that is a good sign for Roland Garros...?
See...? I already put the pressure on him....
The movement is different at RG.

It was a struggle by Federer's standards. Look at Sampras' scores at the 1994 AO.
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Í agree, he is a human beeing and I think the pressure is too much for him right now, maybe e sould take a long vaccation or something. Not play until indian wells and just relax. He should go out there and enjoy his tennis much more, it doesnt matter if he lose a match here and there. I want Federer to be perfect just like everybody else and the media, but he shouldnt have to carry the burden, it is too much for him right now. I think he must completely stop reading what the media says about him, what experts think he will achieve or the records he can break. I must say I am a little worried about his mental health, he is a very sensitive guy and he wasnt born to be a star like Agassi or Mcenroe.

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he wasnt born to be a star like Agassi or Mcenroe.
Thank god, he's not like them. One is a total jerk, and the other is an individual with multiple personalities, craftly tailored to his PR needs.
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I don't know about mental breakdown, but I do agree he has been carrying too much pressure on his shoulder these days. Even from 05 I already noticed his tennis has been a bit different than 04, in 04 he seemed to be enjoying the whole thing more. I don't know maybe it was just because in 05 he was pressured of not having a slam yet for the first half of the season.

I do agree for his longevity sake, he needs to start to focus on slams more and not so much on the other tournaments. It will take a toll on him sooner or later if he keeps maintaining such high standard on every tournaments year after year.

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I also have been concerned about his mental state - how he carries the burden of expectations heaped upon him I just don't know. There were times during this tournament when I felt he wasn't really enjoying being out there on court - which seemed so unlike him. Everyone would love him to at least get the Career Slam - and I fear the burden of everyone willing him to achieve it at the FO will only increase the pressure.
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I think winning the AO should take a lot of pressure off his shoulders. It did in 2004. I'm not saying that he'll win 3 Slams again, but he'll play more freely for the rest of the year. Remember, every year when a player wins at least one GS is a great year. Also, he won't have to listen the talk about him going slamless.
Totally agree. One of the reasons he broke down and cried I think is because he wants so much to continue to be #1 and realized that after some tough tennis over 2 weeks, he would most likely continue to be #1 throughout this year.

If he had lost to Haas or Davy or even Kiwi, he would have to defend EVERYTHING in order to stay comfortably ahead of Nadal. Rotterdam, Dubai, IW, Miami, Hamburg...; now he doesn't have to win EVERYTHING and still stay comfortably ahead.
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Re: Way too much pressure on Roger - time to relax

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Like most of you, I also found Roger's tears today endearing, but I'm afraid (and I must say I'm not a psychologist or a doctor or anything) it has revealed something deeper - the man could be on the verge of a mental breakdown.

And who wouldn't be...?
For more than two years now this nice and sensitive person has been "Mr. Perfect" for everyone, winning 172 out of 182 matches(94.5%!!!), being the overwehlming favorite to win every tournament he enters (which he's almost always justified), carrying the responsibility for tournament's publication on his shoulders (Shanghai, anyone...?), and worst of all - being reminded of dozens of different records he's seemingly on the verge of breaking by media people.
I had similar thoughts and I am not a psychologist either . While it was a great moment to share, those tears showed the pressure under which Roger must have been throughout the tourney and the relief to have won it with willpower, mental toughness and physical strength, but without the artistic fluidity he had shown elsewhere before.

However, for once, I would not put the blame on the media. I deeply feel it is pressure from within, he himself wants to win all those tournaments and of course the GS, even if he wisely refuses to speak about it in public. And while I adore high ambitions and the determination to achieve them, I wonder what the price might be.Relax, Roger! I think Mirka has some work to do, and that goes far beyond childish girl-friend gossip.
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Re: Way too much pressure on Roger - time to relax

Got to win the French sooner rather than later.
That will relieve a lot of pressure off his shoulders for the rest of his career.
Of course if he does it this year, we will go crazy over the prospect of the GS, but what can I say?

Some people talk about Sampras as an example, how he used to focus more on big tourneys and stuff, but I think that's a bit unfair.
Fed's determination and capability to excel at every tournament he enters is what makes who he is, and the fact that he executes it nearly every time is what separates him from other great players, Sampras included.
Besides, Fed winning even on an off-day is not his fault any more.
Other players have got to catch up.

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