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The GET IT ALL OUT thread ->>u dont even have to make sense! (fedfans only)

was there ever such a thread??? why do ppl always have to hide their sad feelings.... well time to LET IT ALL OUT!! any kind of feelings, irrational, rational?? who knows... its our forum.. we r entitled with liberty of speech!

i must admit im sad and a bit dissapointed that roger lost to nadal.. and dont find a good reason of why he played with so many mistakes... sure nadal is on the other side of the court but its more than that... its mental!
i shouldnt be dissapointed cuz roger had advanced so much, he lost in the SF

im speaking for myself only.. that prob i wont watch the final where it reminds me of this lost and that it will prob be a straight set bashing... if roger's not in i dont even bother... maybe ill switch the channels a couple of times to c the last of the clay court season... bon voyage!

-->well any fedfan is invited to post.. after it, lets burn this thread and mark a new beginning for the GRASS SEASON *CHEERS*

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Re: The GET IT ALL OUT thread ->>u dont even have to make sense! (fedfans only)

Yeah I don't know how to explain Fed's loss too... He was so unrecognizable yesterday... so many errors on his FH... I was getting mad watching this match but right before it started I said to my mum " He's not gonna win I feel it"... Unfortunately I was right... His mental state worries me... 2 GS SF, 2 losses... Let's hope he'll do weel in wimby and WIN IT!!!

I cried right after the match and now I'm going to sleep but before I'll cry a little I think, just to put out all my frustration: I believed Roger could win this year or never...Let's hope I am wrong!

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=( i was in school so i couldnt watch the match... i had already consider how the oucome would be for me if roger wins or not... one thing i was sure is that i reeaallly wanted roger to win... and i followed the score in school...
i got sad seeing he lost 6-4 in the first.. but thats only the beginning so i didnt get too nervious... then i saw he won the second and lost the 3rd.. bad sign... then at 2:00 i checked the scores one last time before going home to c the awful score of: 3-6 6-4 3-6 3-5 with nadal serving *30-15... and the AWFUL feeling of being doom STRUCK me and i didnt know how to react.. so i turned it off and went home without wanting to watch anymore =(

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Re: The GET IT ALL OUT thread ->>u dont even have to make sense! (fedfans only)

I was sad when Roger lost to Nadal too. This was really a match that I was expecting him to win. And when he won that second set, it really seemed like he awoke from the sleep he was in in the first.

There were just too many unforced errors, and bad first serve percentages for Roger to win this match. In the end, the Roger we saw was unrecognizable and his confidence was low.

This was his best showing at RG though, and I know that he'll bounce back soon. He always does.
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thank you for making this thread. it gets tiresome trying to be politically correct and speaking with your head, not your heart. honestly, i was devastated. i went through a whole bunch of phases when at first i thought there was no way he could win this match, to then reading what journalists and basically most people were saying-- that he COULD do it. and i began to believe it and became optimistic... too optimistic. and then when the rain delay came i was almost convinced that he would definitely win.

i HATE this. I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!!! why did he have to play so poorly. why did he have to destroy that almost invincible aura people have built upon him. my expectations for roger are SO unbelievably high, i guess it hurts that much more when he falls like this. he WILL get up, he CAN go on. but people in the press will no doubt, and with good reason, write about how nadal may be his equal, or even put him a few notches above. and then all those "best ever" projections will seem silly and premature. i can't even cry, thats how much this is bothering me. cuz when the tears start coming, they will (pathetically so) take a long time to stop. the safin match in melbourne-- at least you fell he fought. here, he just resigned himself to the worse tennis i've ever seen him play. why? how? i dont understand. ughhh im driving myself crazy for an answer but obviously there is none. he's human. yup, roger federer is human and will not always be on top, as my brother very sadistically reminds me every other moment as he watches the semi again. yes this is all a long long ramble and the true fed-fanantic within me is speaking, without reason, completely selfish. but hey, thats what this is for, right? someone tell me i'm not the only one completely broken by this. its only a tennis match. only ONE match. just one. then why does it feel like i lost it?

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rogersgirl.. just speak ur mind.. it IS definitely tiresome always to be diplomatic at loses... like havig to hypocritically say good things about everything when u r feeling down... =( i dont know how roger copes with it.... i think what he said in the interview reflected his true feelings... then ppl starts bashing him about his arrogance... HOW IS HE SUPPOSE TO BE HAPPY!!! after it... its like ur mom is killed and u r expected to be reasonable and not emotional.. its easy to say good things about ur opponent when u win... definitely not when u lose in a match that matters... specially when u know u could have done it but didnt give ur best... and u wish u could just have a second chance... happens to everyone right? when it happens to me i FEEL SOOOO MAD about myself for not doing what i can... is roger going through it in private?? =(!!

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This is a sad day for Roger. This was the perfect chance for him to win Roland Garros. He lost and it hurts. But people mistake honest truth as bravado and cockiness. It has been said before, a first class claycourter beat the most complete player on his weakest surface. If you poll the players, what is their favourite surface? A high majority will answer either clay or hard court. Not many will say, grass. That's something special.

This loss hurts, but it is not the end-all-be-all. Roger is exquisite on grass; excellent on hard court and very good on clay. He was right, he can beat Nadal anyday on any surface. Even on clay when he plays his best. When Roger plays his best NO ONE is annals of history can beat him.

Roger will have another chance at Roland Garros, but now he must focus on The Championships- Wimbledon. A third championship and 5-0 in GS finals would be perfect. I imagine it would keep him No. 1 for the rest of the year. And a win at The Championships will be great motivation for a repeat at Flushing Meadows.

I love all you Fed Fans! Let's stick together and give Rogi some slack. This is only his third loss of the year, 6 months into the year. That's pretty good. And I DO NOT think he needs to change his (semi) coach or as Bud Collins calls him "The Guest Lecturer". He probably needs more time throughout the year with him.

I think we Fed fans have been a bit spoiled. Roger hardly ever loses, granted two of his three losses were in the semis of a GS. That hurts. So close to THE GS. I think Roger needs a coach on an almost full-time, if not 3/4 time basis. I know he has proved that he can win 3 GS in a year without one. But it is not a sign of weakness to seek full-time assistance.

This loss will only fuel the flame that burns within Roger. This is a Champion of a rare level. Only few are here...Sampras, Borg, Laver, Graf, Evert, Navratilova. Roger is already there at 23. And if anyone one doubts me on that...take it up with the legends of tennis and commentating that say the same.

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i love you lady natalia!!! very very well put. puts my heart and mind a bit at ease knowing that i'm not the only one this effected by it, and that being optimistic is what we owe our champion. thanks

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Thanks for this thread. I feel like a shit.. I am proud that he got this far. But, today, Federer, IMHO, wasn't dialed in. He was just so annoyed at himself, weather everything. I miss the old cool roger.. And this year, he is slowly turning away from himself. But, i trust him to do the right thing. Come on roger. pull up your socks and trust yourself, rather than so much abt Tony roche. he may be great, but, you can figure it all yourself too.. remember that!! and forget about talking about saving energy etc.. just do your ninja magic..
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i love you lady natalia!!! very very well put. puts my heart and mind a bit at ease knowing that i'm not the only one this effected by it, and that being optimistic is what we owe our champion. thanks
I agree with you completely. And truly feel what you are feeling. All after the match, I just kept think "why didn't he play better?" This was the perfect time for him to win RG.

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Shit He not believe in himself, he played with his tactics but not with his tennis instinct, his confidence seems disappeared somewhere, i'm so sad i want to cry out loud...but oh yeah GRASS SEASON IS COMING, thanks GOD

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Glad I've got somewhere to say what a rotten night's sleep I've had (still v early morning) wondering just what was wrong with Rogi on that court. I've never seen him play so badly - and that's what really hurts. When Safin beat him at the AO, you knew he'd given all he had to give, played really great tennis and with injuries too. The "never say die" attitude is one of the things I admire so much about him and could not believe what I was watching yesterday. I felt he never walked onto that court like he owned it and from the moment he struck the ball during his first service game, the writing was on the wall. Something wasn't there and sadly, he never found it during the match either!
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The different between this loss and the AO loss is that though I felt really sad after AO but I was also very proud and I know he had tried his best but he just couldn't do it anymore at the end. But here, it's not.

He gave me hope for this match. Even when he lost the 1st set, he pushed Nadal playing brilliant tennis, it was nth like at the beginning of Miami final where he was just lost. Of course in the 2nd set, the only times when he's able to string everything together consistenly and played well, he had the match in his hand, there wasn't much Nadal could do there at all no matter how hard he tried. He let me believe that it's his match tol win and yet...nope, false hope.

After he was up 5-1 in the 2nd set, I don't know what happened but he's just so streaky. No consistency, one brilliang shot followed by some really lousy errors. Worse of all in the 4th set being up 3-1 and just uncharacteristicly faded away completely...his first serves % is unbelievably low and losing all games after that lead was simply shocking. That was very disappointing for me because I know he has it in him to win the match and I don't know why of all matches, he couldn't find that extra factor here, a very important occasion with much at stake.

I know I should jsut get it all out and not make sense here, but you have to give it to Nadal. He has to be extremely pressurised as well but ultimately he was the one who kept the form and consistency. He made it, Rogi didn't, simple as that.

I believe two of the key things for Rogi going to this match is to serve well and cut down the errors, and both he failed miserably.

I just hope he's never going to play another match with such performance EVER again. It's pointless having glimpse of brilliant shots here and there, but when the point really matters, you failed to deliver.

End of rant. Moving forward to grass, after all it's still an improvement from last year RG for Rogi...but pls Rogi, just no more giving yourself extra pressures, you have to live with the moment and deal with them and YOU CAN.
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Yeah, I want to speak out what I'm thinking. Thank you for making an opportunity of this, lina. It's not easy work for my English but I'll try. I don't want to try to analyse the match or figure out why he lost. I just want to put down my thoughts and feelings here.
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This morning right after the match, literally I felt sick and almost cried. So devastated. I even didn't want to see the match on TV(as I live in the westcoast of US, they showed the delayed taped match). I didn't want to read any articles and posts in MTF. It seems like my heart was totally broken. I thought it would take a couple of months for me to get over it as it did when Roger lose to Safin at AO.

However, slowly I got to realize that this is only the 3rd loss of this year. Of course, 2 of them are SFs at the grand slam. Those are big. It might be big. Many people must be disappointed with that. But so what? He'll be staying as no.1 in the world even though Nadal wins FO and then the Race points of them are tied. He has still 2 more GSs coming, which will take place on his favorite surfaces. And there are bunch of other tournaments he can dominate. Top of all, nobody doubts his ability and status as a player to beat just by this one defeat. So why should we be so disappointed? It's not the end of the world.

We, Roger fans including me, have been a little(no, very) spoiled. Since 2003 MC, he've done what nobody'd done yet. NOBODY, yes, includes Roger himself. In some respects, it's much easier to reach a certain level for the first time in one's career or life. However, the maintenance of the level is a totally different story. It requires more labor and energy. It's just like, in geometry, the area below the slope of a hyperbolic curve is smaller than that below the plateau of the curve. Besides, we all know it's much more difficult to repeat the same results right after such an incredible 2004.

An irory is all these are attributed to Roger himself. He've raised a bar of tennis 'too much' to the extent that he(yes, even he) has to improve his own level of tennis. I think this must be driving him crazy and wearing him down sometimes, especially in a mental aspect.

Nonetheless, somehow our beloved Roger has come through this year despite of all the pressure. So far better than last year! No GS title? C'mon, give him some slack. He missed just one, AO. This year he reached SF at FO, has better win-loss ratio and won more titles. How about that? Not good enough for you? Seriously, I'm really amazed by how well he has managed physical and mental fatigue which, I guess, must be enormous.

Yes, today's loss made us feeling awful and annoyed at what people unthoughtfully talk. But we have to get used to his losses as well as his wins. We have to admitt and embrace the facts that he is human, sometimes he plays like a crap and he can lose a match in one bad day even though it's a GS. What do we want from him more? He plays tennis like a god but he's not a god.

Today I decided not to get heart-broken any more from his loss as far as he is No. 1 in the world and I can enjoy his beautiful tennis for a long time. I just feel thankful for his presence in my time.

But please, guys, don't jinx him or say something stupid like "somebody's birthday is the day of SF at Wimbledon" Just cheering him. Wish him to win. Sometimes that's not enough, like today.

Sorry for a long post.

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Isy, I feel exactly the same. The loss itself I can swallow, but his gutless performance is a hard thing to take.
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